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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8198658" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>For your friend to have even a 50/50 split between races they can use without a sidebar and races that would need a sidebar, they might need to have seven years of new releases. That is to say that the game, which many people claim will be over in 2024 would need to make it til 2028 for this to be a 50/50 split between the two rules versions. Assuming they release lineages at the exact same rate they released races, which they likely won't. </p><p></p><p>That is a long time before his preferred system isn't the majority of the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess you won't address any of my responses to those reasons you already stated? I mean, for at least three of your objections (one of which was an entire genre of possible releases) I showed that they already exist, officially, in the rules. I'd think that would warrant at least some response before you just dismiss it as "agree to disagree"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And I've agreed that it would be kind of them to do so. </p><p></p><p>But then in a few posts you or someone else will take one of my points and point an accusing finger and ask why I have no sympathy for the player who wants their official limitation on races? Why am I against a simple sidebar that would solve all of these problems? Why is it so hard for me to just accept this simple sidebar so both sides can be supported? </p><p></p><p>And I respond, saying that, I am all for you getting that sidebar, but I don't see it as a big deal, because it not existing is at worst a tiny bit of effort for some DM. </p><p></p><p>And then a few posts later someone will respond with an accusing finger and ask why I am against including a sidebar which would allow both options? Why is it so hard for me to accept that some people want this sidebar so they can have official ASIs? Does it really harm me to have this sidebar to give them what they want?</p><p></p><p>And I respond saying that, you know, I'm perfectly fine with people having that side bar, but I don't see it as a big deal, because even if it doesn't exist, this is such a trivial thing for the DM to fix if they really want to. </p><p></p><p>And then a few posts later...</p><p></p><p>So yeah, I get it, you want the side bar. You think it will solve all the problems. You think it would be kind. You think it would be inclusive. I get it. I'm fine with it. I hope you get your sidebar. So, maybe stop accusing me of not wanting you to get it. Stop asking me why I'm being so noninclusive by not letting you have your sidebar, why I am so against the sidebar.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8198658, member: 6801228"] For your friend to have even a 50/50 split between races they can use without a sidebar and races that would need a sidebar, they might need to have seven years of new releases. That is to say that the game, which many people claim will be over in 2024 would need to make it til 2028 for this to be a 50/50 split between the two rules versions. Assuming they release lineages at the exact same rate they released races, which they likely won't. That is a long time before his preferred system isn't the majority of the game. I guess you won't address any of my responses to those reasons you already stated? I mean, for at least three of your objections (one of which was an entire genre of possible releases) I showed that they already exist, officially, in the rules. I'd think that would warrant at least some response before you just dismiss it as "agree to disagree" And I've agreed that it would be kind of them to do so. But then in a few posts you or someone else will take one of my points and point an accusing finger and ask why I have no sympathy for the player who wants their official limitation on races? Why am I against a simple sidebar that would solve all of these problems? Why is it so hard for me to just accept this simple sidebar so both sides can be supported? And I respond, saying that, I am all for you getting that sidebar, but I don't see it as a big deal, because it not existing is at worst a tiny bit of effort for some DM. And then a few posts later someone will respond with an accusing finger and ask why I am against including a sidebar which would allow both options? Why is it so hard for me to accept that some people want this sidebar so they can have official ASIs? Does it really harm me to have this sidebar to give them what they want? And I respond saying that, you know, I'm perfectly fine with people having that side bar, but I don't see it as a big deal, because even if it doesn't exist, this is such a trivial thing for the DM to fix if they really want to. And then a few posts later... So yeah, I get it, you want the side bar. You think it will solve all the problems. You think it would be kind. You think it would be inclusive. I get it. I'm fine with it. I hope you get your sidebar. So, maybe stop accusing me of not wanting you to get it. Stop asking me why I'm being so noninclusive by not letting you have your sidebar, why I am so against the sidebar. [/QUOTE]
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