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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 8200023" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>Wow. That's insulting. I think everyone here understands the new rule of putting your +2 and +1 in whatever stat you want. That is not the problem. The problem is that a great many of us think that is a bad way to set as the default. Leave it as an optional rule, it's great! (in my opinion) But don't get rid of default species ASIs to... I don't even know that to say here. What IS the purpose of getting rid of default species ASIs? Certainly it is not insulting to say a quick and nimble species gets a default +2 Dex? Or a willowy and graceful species to get +2 Dex? Or a big and powerful species to get a +2 Str? Or a sturdy and resilient species to get a +2 Con. Is it insulting to say that one species is stronger than the other (on average!) when one is 7 feet tall and the other is 3 feet tall?</p><p></p><p>And the game already allows the 3 foot species to get to the same maximum of 20 Str! Or a 20 in any stat! They just start 2 points, or one +1 or 5%, behind the stronger species. And they added an optional rule so they don't even need to be behind at all anymore!</p><p></p><p>Another thing to consider is that it is fine to let people play "whatever they want", but if you have absolutely no limits, you are not playing a game anymore. So obviously WotC can make a rule that says, "You can make your stats whatever you want, have as many or as few racial features as you want, and can make up your own racial features to fit your character concept" as at that point you are just playing the storytelling game of "Let's Pretend". Which is great if that is what you want to do! But it is no longer D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 8200023, member: 31754"] Wow. That's insulting. I think everyone here understands the new rule of putting your +2 and +1 in whatever stat you want. That is not the problem. The problem is that a great many of us think that is a bad way to set as the default. Leave it as an optional rule, it's great! (in my opinion) But don't get rid of default species ASIs to... I don't even know that to say here. What IS the purpose of getting rid of default species ASIs? Certainly it is not insulting to say a quick and nimble species gets a default +2 Dex? Or a willowy and graceful species to get +2 Dex? Or a big and powerful species to get a +2 Str? Or a sturdy and resilient species to get a +2 Con. Is it insulting to say that one species is stronger than the other (on average!) when one is 7 feet tall and the other is 3 feet tall? And the game already allows the 3 foot species to get to the same maximum of 20 Str! Or a 20 in any stat! They just start 2 points, or one +1 or 5%, behind the stronger species. And they added an optional rule so they don't even need to be behind at all anymore! Another thing to consider is that it is fine to let people play "whatever they want", but if you have absolutely no limits, you are not playing a game anymore. So obviously WotC can make a rule that says, "You can make your stats whatever you want, have as many or as few racial features as you want, and can make up your own racial features to fit your character concept" as at that point you are just playing the storytelling game of "Let's Pretend". Which is great if that is what you want to do! But it is no longer D&D. [/QUOTE]
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