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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Twig" data-source="post: 8200202" data-attributes="member: 31754"><p>I 100% agree! Halflings, as a general rule, being much smaller, should be physically weaker than orcs. But it is perfectly okay for a player character halfling to be the exception. Total agreement!</p><p></p><p>Yep! Agree again!</p><p></p><p>Here we disagree. Racial ASI doesn't point you to a <em>single</em> class, but it does narrow down the choices to a few optimal ones, while not excluding any of them if you want to play against type. And I believe the opposite of what you say is true when you say that putting the bonus where ever you want means "you don't have to worry about it". Telling you "it goes here" is not worrying about it. Telling you "where ever you want!" immediately leads to: "Well, where <em>should</em> I put it?" Now I have to worry if I put it in the right place! And finally, yes, some people <em>do</em> need the book to tell them what they should do, or at least make a suggestion. <em>Especially</em> new players that might have no idea of what to do when they first start playing.</p><p></p><p>I agree with this.</p><p></p><p>And here I agree that it is a good rule, I just don't think there shouldn't be a default. I would even go so far as to say it shouldn't even be an optional rule! It should be a standard rule that you can ignore the racial ASI <em>suggestion</em> and put the racial bonus where ever you want if you don't like the default. BUT! There should be default stats for the racial ASIs.</p><p></p><p>They are dull stereotypes in your opinion. Not in my opinion, and not in many others. All races/species should indeed be individuals, and they should not be forced into "brainless stereotypes", but they never have been in 5e. Beverly Toegold the Fifth is a strength based halfling paladin and has been for years before Tasha's optional rules came out. Not getting a +2 to his Strength stat didn't stop him. He was not forced into being a Rogue. He is a paladin.</p><p></p><p>So really we agree quite a bit! It seems just a matter of degrees to where we diverge. I think racial default ASIs should exist, but can be ignored, and you think they shouldn't exist at all (I believe this is accurate, not trying to straw man). Between the two I think my solution is the more inclusive one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Twig, post: 8200202, member: 31754"] I 100% agree! Halflings, as a general rule, being much smaller, should be physically weaker than orcs. But it is perfectly okay for a player character halfling to be the exception. Total agreement! Yep! Agree again! Here we disagree. Racial ASI doesn't point you to a [I]single[/I] class, but it does narrow down the choices to a few optimal ones, while not excluding any of them if you want to play against type. And I believe the opposite of what you say is true when you say that putting the bonus where ever you want means "you don't have to worry about it". Telling you "it goes here" is not worrying about it. Telling you "where ever you want!" immediately leads to: "Well, where [I]should[/I] I put it?" Now I have to worry if I put it in the right place! And finally, yes, some people [I]do[/I] need the book to tell them what they should do, or at least make a suggestion. [I]Especially[/I] new players that might have no idea of what to do when they first start playing. I agree with this. And here I agree that it is a good rule, I just don't think there shouldn't be a default. I would even go so far as to say it shouldn't even be an optional rule! It should be a standard rule that you can ignore the racial ASI [I]suggestion[/I] and put the racial bonus where ever you want if you don't like the default. BUT! There should be default stats for the racial ASIs. They are dull stereotypes in your opinion. Not in my opinion, and not in many others. All races/species should indeed be individuals, and they should not be forced into "brainless stereotypes", but they never have been in 5e. Beverly Toegold the Fifth is a strength based halfling paladin and has been for years before Tasha's optional rules came out. Not getting a +2 to his Strength stat didn't stop him. He was not forced into being a Rogue. He is a paladin. So really we agree quite a bit! It seems just a matter of degrees to where we diverge. I think racial default ASIs should exist, but can be ignored, and you think they shouldn't exist at all (I believe this is accurate, not trying to straw man). Between the two I think my solution is the more inclusive one. [/QUOTE]
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