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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8201255" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Saying that Gauntlets of Ogre power prove anything is kind of hilarious. A wand of Fireballs cast fireballs. Elven Boots give you advantage on Stealth. Yes, items have bonuses that are specific to that item. That is a non-observation.Feats too. You say that Heavy Armor Master gives you strength, because that makes sense. I'm curious, doesn't Con also make sense? It is physical conditioning after all. And, yeah, this doesn't apply to every feat, but just like magic items, feats have specific things they give you. War Caster involves a major focus on your ability to cast spells, but doesn't increase your spellcasting ability score in anyway. Magic Initiate can represent studying and learning an entire new style of magic, focused on a new score, and yet that doesn't increase your score with that ability. And, lest we get too deep in the weeds, what does an ability score improvement at levels 4, 8, 12, 16 and 19 represent? Are those meant for increasing your strength? You constitution? Your Wisdom? You seem to be pointing at that all ability score increases, feats, magic items, class abilities, racial ASIs are all very specific things that give very specific increases to very specific scores. But the biggest place for score increases for a PC is actually the true ASI's right? So, what specific thing do they represent. And, about earning things through play. Did I have to earn having a demonic ancestor that granted me power through play? Did I have to earn gaining the title as the Faerie Queen's Knight through play? Did I have to earn my spellcasting ability through play? In fact, if I start as a martial, then at level three gain spellcasting, what did I have to do in play to gain that? You can put your foot down and say that we have to "earn it" but a lot of the things players get that are truly defining for them, they don't earn at all. I didn't earn the ability to play a Tiefling. I didn't earn the ability to play a warlock. I didn't earn the ability to play a bard. I just did. Why should being a strong halfling need to be earned, but playing the Grandchild of the Duke of Acheron, blessed with infernal powers by my grandfather's sword so that I may seek him out and kill him not need to be earned?</blockquote>

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