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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8201721" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>No, it will have <em>one attribute</em> that's more similar, <em>if</em> the halfling paladin and half-orc paladin end up putting the same score and same ASI in the same attribute. You might as well say that it would be bad for the two to have the same alignment, or same Intelligence score, or choose the same spells because they'd be similar.</p><p></p><p>And also, what are the odds there are going to be <em>two </em>paladins in the same party? It might happen, but it's going to be very rare. And if there aren't two paladins in the same party, then it doesn't matter if the halfling paladin in my party has the same Strength as the half-orc paladin in <em>your </em>party. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, we both know that attribute <em>modifiers</em> are important, since they are used to make up your hit points, skills, proficiencies, saves, etc., so this is a trick question. But if you're talking about raw numbers--Strength 16 vs. Strength 17--I can honestly say that the last time those numbers were ever mechanically important in any game I played or ran would be the last time I played AD&D2e. So... over 20 years ago?</p><p></p><p>And quite frankly, while the modifiers are important, the difference that a +1 makes, even in a bounded accuracy system like 5e, is not all <em>that </em>huge. </p><p></p><p></p><p>There are very few racial feats, and it's unclear if WotC is going to produce anymore. And racial feats, again, are not the same thing as ASIs. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And <em>again</em>, we're not talking about "the races." We're talking about extraordinary individuals. One orc PC taking an elf feat doesn't mean that orcs, as a species, are now more like elves. It means that one orc PC has learned something previously known only to elves. Or has developed a trick that <em>mimics</em> an elfin ability. Maybe your orc was blessed by the Queen of Spring and it manifests as the Fey Teleportation feat. </p><p></p><p>Do people in your games take a lot of racial feats? I'm not sure anyone at my table ever has. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you! However, my next setting has neither halflings nor orcs in it, so these will have to sit on the back burner for a while. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Those are things covered by skills, proficiencies, racial traits, and even feats.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As one of my DMs put it, if you want something for a reason, that's fine. If you want it just because it's cool, then no. Have the player write a detailed backstory explaining how their dragonborn or desert human learned the skills of Verlay halfling. I allow for bullet points, if the player is uncomfortable writing prose.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8201721, member: 6915329"] No, it will have [I]one attribute[/I] that's more similar, [I]if[/I] the halfling paladin and half-orc paladin end up putting the same score and same ASI in the same attribute. You might as well say that it would be bad for the two to have the same alignment, or same Intelligence score, or choose the same spells because they'd be similar. And also, what are the odds there are going to be [I]two [/I]paladins in the same party? It might happen, but it's going to be very rare. And if there aren't two paladins in the same party, then it doesn't matter if the halfling paladin in my party has the same Strength as the half-orc paladin in [I]your [/I]party. Well, we both know that attribute [I]modifiers[/I] are important, since they are used to make up your hit points, skills, proficiencies, saves, etc., so this is a trick question. But if you're talking about raw numbers--Strength 16 vs. Strength 17--I can honestly say that the last time those numbers were ever mechanically important in any game I played or ran would be the last time I played AD&D2e. So... over 20 years ago? And quite frankly, while the modifiers are important, the difference that a +1 makes, even in a bounded accuracy system like 5e, is not all [I]that [/I]huge. There are very few racial feats, and it's unclear if WotC is going to produce anymore. And racial feats, again, are not the same thing as ASIs. And [I]again[/I], we're not talking about "the races." We're talking about extraordinary individuals. One orc PC taking an elf feat doesn't mean that orcs, as a species, are now more like elves. It means that one orc PC has learned something previously known only to elves. Or has developed a trick that [I]mimics[/I] an elfin ability. Maybe your orc was blessed by the Queen of Spring and it manifests as the Fey Teleportation feat. Do people in your games take a lot of racial feats? I'm not sure anyone at my table ever has. Thank you! However, my next setting has neither halflings nor orcs in it, so these will have to sit on the back burner for a while. Those are things covered by skills, proficiencies, racial traits, and even feats. As one of my DMs put it, if you want something for a reason, that's fine. If you want it just because it's cool, then no. Have the player write a detailed backstory explaining how their dragonborn or desert human learned the skills of Verlay halfling. I allow for bullet points, if the player is uncomfortable writing prose. [/QUOTE]
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