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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8201734" data-attributes="member: 6801228">So again, I have to &quot;earn&quot; barbarian by picking barbarian. But I can't &quot;earn&quot; strength unless I pick a race that gives me strength? Because... then my strength isn't because of my race? I mean, think about your choice of langauge here. &quot;I'm sorry, I know your Loxodon Fighter is huge, and a fighter and solider who led a legion into a grand defense against a horde of demons, but you just haven't earned having a higher strength. Not like that Orc sage who has spent his entire life in a library. He earned his strength&quot;Yes, the rule has changed. Race no longer determines some static set of ASIs. But arguing against that rule change by saying that players need to &quot;earn&quot; their bonuses is just nonsensical. I didn't &quot;earn&quot; the right to play an orc. I didn't earn the right to play a barbarian. Heck, I could play a barbarian with spellcasting. Maybe I go human and grab a spellcasting feat. Maybe I play a race with spellcasting. Maybe the DM is one of those DMs who feels everyone should have a feat at first level and I get to pick a spellcasting feat that way. And again, you can say I then &quot;earned&quot; the right to have those abilities, but I didn't &quot;earn&quot; anything. I just picked options that were available to me. Now Tasha's options are available to me, so if I don't need to &quot;earn&quot; the right to play a Human Barbarian with Fey Touched, who is going to go Wild Magic and lean into mixing barbarian with magic, then I shouldn't need to &quot;earn&quot; the right to play a Loxodon fighter who has a higher strength.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8201734, member: 6801228"] So again, I have to "earn" barbarian by picking barbarian. But I can't "earn" strength unless I pick a race that gives me strength? Because... then my strength isn't because of my race? I mean, think about your choice of langauge here. "I'm sorry, I know your Loxodon Fighter is huge, and a fighter and solider who led a legion into a grand defense against a horde of demons, but you just haven't [I]earned [/I]having a higher strength. Not like that Orc sage who has spent his entire life in a library. He [I]earned [/I]his strength" Yes, the rule has changed. Race no longer determines some static set of ASIs. But arguing against that rule change by saying that players need to "earn" their bonuses is just nonsensical. I didn't "earn" the right to play an orc. I didn't earn the right to play a barbarian. Heck, I could play a barbarian with spellcasting. Maybe I go human and grab a spellcasting feat. Maybe I play a race with spellcasting. Maybe the DM is one of those DMs who feels everyone should have a feat at first level and I get to pick a spellcasting feat that way. And again, you can say I then "earned" the right to have those abilities, but I didn't "earn" anything. I just picked options that were available to me. Now Tasha's options are available to me, so if I don't need to "earn" the right to play a Human Barbarian with Fey Touched, who is going to go Wild Magic and lean into mixing barbarian with magic, then I shouldn't need to "earn" the right to play a Loxodon fighter who has a higher strength. [/QUOTE]

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