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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8203477" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay, let us accept that they didn't mess up more than two player races out of 8 (not counting Drow and Deep Gnome for a second, which would technically make it 3 out of 10, which is still a 33% accuracy error) Let's read the rest of the Half-orc, shall we? Relentless Endurance, Prof Intimidation, Darkvision, language. Note what is missing? No Savage attacks. Look at Dwarf, they included Dwarven Resilience and Stonecunning, forgot to include Weapon Training and Tool ProfNot to mention they don't list any of the subrace things, and when they do have a direct subrace with the Drow, not only do they forget the drow's weapon training, but they also forget that Drow are still elves and get trance and perception as a skill. Can't be that they just thought you would refer to elf either, because they did include Fey Ancestry. Oh, and since when do half-elves get +1 Dex and +1 Int instead of floating scores? Sure, that is very similiar to the high elf, but we can also clearly say that it is not what is in the PHB. Though, hey, it seems they did in an obscure corner of a DM only book give a suggested stat.Then outside of the PHB: Deep Gnome is wrongAarcrokra is wrongGoblin is WrongHobgoblin is wrongKenku is wrongKobold is wrongLizardfolk is wrong Orc is WrongSo, let me summarize this chart that people keep trying to use to show that all racial traits from PCs are applied to NPC statblocks by defaultOut of 25 races on the chart, 7 of them have no printed version (Bullywug, Gnoll, Grimlock, Kuo-Toa, Merfolk, Skeleton, Zombie and Troglodyte.) Out of these 7 we can also say that if there ever is an official printed version, they would be completely different. Because many of them have negatives that would never be applied to PCs (Playing a Bullywug is simply taking negative scores) or have no bonuses, which is innaccurate to even humans. But that leaves us 18 entries. Out of those 11 of them are not accurate to the ASIs in their published versions. Sure, maybe the designers changed their minds, but since they never released an errata for the DMG covering this, I'm going forward with this being wrong to the true version of the race. Which leaves us 7 entries that are at least ASI accurate... and two of those don't have the proper racial traits (Drow and Half-Orc) Meaning, if we ignore the existence of Sub-Races and just allow elf, gnome and halfling to slide, this chart has 5 accurate depictions to the player side of the game. 5/25 = 20% accuracy. And if you include a desire for sub-races within this chart, then they only got two of them right. Tiefling and Dragonborn. And, sure, you could say that little asterisk means that all of those PHB versions are fine, because you have to go look in the book... but that raises the question of why they bothered to put them in this chart like this in the first place, instead of just saying "go use the PHB". In fact, it kind of indicates that for NPCs, they were expecting to have differences between the two versions.</blockquote>

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