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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8203492" data-attributes="member: 6801228">If you "can" modify them, then you don't have to. Meaning that you do not have to apply PC elf abilities to an Elf to make them an elf. So, how can you sit there and argue that you don't have to apply racial ASIs to an NPC for them to be an NPC of that race, but then also say that you must apply Racial ASIs to every member of the  race? You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. And again, you want to focus on Racial Feats. Why? Literally, you are the only one who keeps trying to have this discussion, and you somehow also feel like taking away ASIs means taking away all racial traits. What makes a Lightfoot halfling different than a Forest Gnome? One has Lucky, Brave, Halfling Nimbleness, and Naturally Stealthy. The Other has Gnome Cunning, Natural Illusionist, and Beast Speech. Those aren't feats. Those aren't ASI. And yet, they do a pretty good job of differentiating between the two races. In fact, they do a better job at differentiating between the races. Here, I'll show you. Just to be fair I'll let you know that I am not using any ASIs from Subraces, this is pure top level. Because, well, if I used subrace ASIs this would be even more ridiculous.Race A has +2 Strength and +1 ConRace B has +2 Strength and +1 ConWhat races are they? How about Race C has +2 Dex and Race D has +2 Dex? Here, this is an uncommon one, how about Race E has +2 Cha and +1 Int, and then Race F has +2 Cha and +1 Int? Now, let me give you some completely different sets. Race #1 has Hidden Step and Race #2 has Severed from Dreams. Race #3 has Long-Limbed while Race #4 has ShiftingRace #5 has Mirthful Leaps while Race #6 has ShapechangerNotice how much easier it is to tell exactly which races I'm talking about from the numbers, instead of the lettered group? Traits are far far far more useful than ASIs. Heck, even if I pick two completely different sets, you can tell who they are far easier from a single trait that from their ASIs. +2 Con, +1 Wisdom vs +2 Int +1Cha  orCall to the Wave vs Breath Weapon</blockquote>

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