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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 8205484" data-attributes="member: 6799649">And I am also ignoring the fact that I want my 1st level fighter to be able to cast 9th level spells. Waaah, my creative freedom has been taken away!If a race is conceptually strong, then it's appropriate that they get a bonus to Strength. Whether it is interesting or not isn't a factor on whether it should exist.Then allocate your points differently.It's not wrong to want a 16, 18, 20 or 30 in a stat. What's wrong is claiming ability bonuses from race that have nothing to do with race.Sure, but what each version had in common was that they were sincerely attempting to use those rules to reflect that race's concept, while keeping an eye on game balance.What you propose is to misuse racial bonuses for something entirely divorced from racial concepts.What's your excuse? Because you want it? Well I want 9th level spells for my 1st level fighter!</blockquote>