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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8206474" data-attributes="member: 6915329">I have repeatedly said, this is not our purpose with floating ASIs.And I did show you a character with traits that couldn't be made with a racial ASI: an aarakocra wizard with a Charisma of 16. And then two other versions without stats above 15. And you ignored in favor of moving your goalposts."You can't do this thing, except that you can do it, but I'm going to claim you can't do it because 16s are baaaad! Except when I pretend that they're not so I don't have to admit I was wrong!"I can have an aarakocra with a 17 Charisma in point buy and racial ASIs? Show me how, oh wise one!Oh, that's right. You consider it bad for people to want a 16 in a stat. Even if its not a stat that's needed for their class. Because having a 16 or 17 is Having Fun Wrong, and that is something you can't allow.So if we remove the racial ASIs altogether, they still have tons of stuff that make them different. Thanks for admitting that.Gods no. My table rolls for stats., the way Gygax and PH intend.I've suggested both point buy and stat array, but everyone--from those of us who started D&D in the 70s and 80s and 90s to those of us who started with this edition--has declared them boring. It's fun having actual low stats as well as high ones. If you're going to have modifiers, they might as well be impressive ones. A -1 is an annoyance; a -2 or -3 is a story.I just used stat array in my examples because it gave a standard example.(And as I pointed out to Arial Black, point buy is a mere variant tucked in at the end.)You have said that repeatedly. Every time you have dismissed me saying I want floating ASIs for customization by insisting on mansplaining that it's really only because I want a 16. When you say that a 15 should be "good enough," you're saying that I'm inherently wrong, that I'm a minmaxing powergamer. When you below say it's painful that Chaosmancer "needs" a +3. Do you have any idea how condescending that is?Such as right here. And I have said that you can easily put that floating +2 in your standard racial stat. Because just in case you still don't get it, the floating ASI goes anywhere you want. You think halflings should be sneaky? Put the +2 in Dex. You think orcs should be strong? Put the +2 in Strength.But that's not good enough for you. You want what's important in your game to be important in my game as well. I want you to have a choice. You want me to not have a choice. You want to dictate where I put my bonus, and to what level, and you condemn me for (thinking that I am) wanting something as base as a high score.Here's a serious experiment for you. Make a halfling rogue, using your preferred stat gen (or better yet, make two halfling rogues, one with point buy and one with stat array) and a typical racial +2 to Dex. What's this character's stats? Most importantly, what's the character's highest stats?</blockquote>

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