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<blockquote data-quote="JEB" data-source="post: 8207249" data-attributes="member: 10148"><p>Allow me to save you some work, then - at this point, I sincerely doubt you or I can dig up any new evidence that definitively proves what the designers intended about PC vs. NPC versions of character races in the span of time between the core rules in 2014, and Tasha's Cauldron of Everything in 2020. We only have two objective facts - one, the only way they provided to reflect racial traits for a NPC was to apply traits that matched (or almost identically matched) the PHB races, and two, their declaration in 2020 that PCs are archetypes that do not reflect the character race. And we don't even agree on the intent behind those facts!</p><p></p><p>For everything else, I see exceptions and anomalies and even mistakes where you see rules and indications of clear intent; I emphasize shared traits and commonalities, and you disregard them to emphasize differences. But really, short of an actual statement from the designers on the matter from the period between 2014 and 2020, we're never going to be able to do more than theorize. The information is too open to interpretation, as has been amply demonstrated through many pages of back-and-forth discussion.</p><p></p><p>I respect the effort you have gone through to back up your arguments and try and persuade me of the error of my ways, but really, I think we're going to have to just disagree on this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Or they could treat kreen the same way they did elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, gith, and shifters, and include defaults as well as floating. And actually support more than just one specific gameplay preference. They certainly don't have to. But they can and they should.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEB, post: 8207249, member: 10148"] Allow me to save you some work, then - at this point, I sincerely doubt you or I can dig up any new evidence that definitively proves what the designers intended about PC vs. NPC versions of character races in the span of time between the core rules in 2014, and Tasha's Cauldron of Everything in 2020. We only have two objective facts - one, the only way they provided to reflect racial traits for a NPC was to apply traits that matched (or almost identically matched) the PHB races, and two, their declaration in 2020 that PCs are archetypes that do not reflect the character race. And we don't even agree on the intent behind those facts! For everything else, I see exceptions and anomalies and even mistakes where you see rules and indications of clear intent; I emphasize shared traits and commonalities, and you disregard them to emphasize differences. But really, short of an actual statement from the designers on the matter from the period between 2014 and 2020, we're never going to be able to do more than theorize. The information is too open to interpretation, as has been amply demonstrated through many pages of back-and-forth discussion. I respect the effort you have gone through to back up your arguments and try and persuade me of the error of my ways, but really, I think we're going to have to just disagree on this. Or they could treat kreen the same way they did elves, dwarves, gnomes, halflings, gith, and shifters, and include defaults as well as floating. And actually support more than just one specific gameplay preference. They certainly don't have to. But they can and they should. [/QUOTE]
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