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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8207576" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>You really cannot get over the fact that they said "if you want to use the player's handbook material, use the player's handbook material" can you? </p><p></p><p>And, we have other things that seem like objective facts, but you want to declare the entirety of Mordenkainen's and Volo's as "an anomaly". So yes, when you dismiss every single thing I bring up as either an anomaly or a mistake, then I don't really see the conversation going anywhere.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why should they? What makes the Elf with its seven subraces over three books such a great design that they must keep using it? </p><p></p><p>Yes, people have a preference for being told what to do. WoTC has said they are going to stop doing that. That is an objective fact of reality. Future Lineages will not be released with static ASIs. Full Stop. There might be a sidebar, it would be a kind gesture, but the official design has changed. And sitting here, telling us that the design should never change, because some people like the old way misses the point that some people like the new way. </p><p></p><p>All I have tried to show with the Kreen example is that they can present this race that people desire for Darksun in such a way as to follow through with their new design principle, and make consistent sense within the lore of the setting. Doing so is not throwing out all reason and sanity on the altar of whatever foul buzzwords people think have cast a spell over WoTC, it isn't doing anything wrong at all in fact. It is a design that can make perfect sense if people allow it to. </p><p></p><p>Is it the old way? No, it isn't. But, it also isn't so radical and new that no one understands how it could work. It isn't so far outside of the design that new lineages and old races can't exist at the same table, using the same stat generation methods. Yes, some people who don't like putting thought into character creation might have to put a bit more thought into it now, and I'm sorry they have to do that, but we aren't destroying DnD and ruining things by making floating ASIs and designing lineages that are not locked into a single possible interpretation. We simply are not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8207576, member: 6801228"] You really cannot get over the fact that they said "if you want to use the player's handbook material, use the player's handbook material" can you? And, we have other things that seem like objective facts, but you want to declare the entirety of Mordenkainen's and Volo's as "an anomaly". So yes, when you dismiss every single thing I bring up as either an anomaly or a mistake, then I don't really see the conversation going anywhere. Why should they? What makes the Elf with its seven subraces over three books such a great design that they must keep using it? Yes, people have a preference for being told what to do. WoTC has said they are going to stop doing that. That is an objective fact of reality. Future Lineages will not be released with static ASIs. Full Stop. There might be a sidebar, it would be a kind gesture, but the official design has changed. And sitting here, telling us that the design should never change, because some people like the old way misses the point that some people like the new way. All I have tried to show with the Kreen example is that they can present this race that people desire for Darksun in such a way as to follow through with their new design principle, and make consistent sense within the lore of the setting. Doing so is not throwing out all reason and sanity on the altar of whatever foul buzzwords people think have cast a spell over WoTC, it isn't doing anything wrong at all in fact. It is a design that can make perfect sense if people allow it to. Is it the old way? No, it isn't. But, it also isn't so radical and new that no one understands how it could work. It isn't so far outside of the design that new lineages and old races can't exist at the same table, using the same stat generation methods. Yes, some people who don't like putting thought into character creation might have to put a bit more thought into it now, and I'm sorry they have to do that, but we aren't destroying DnD and ruining things by making floating ASIs and designing lineages that are not locked into a single possible interpretation. We simply are not. [/QUOTE]
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