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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8297316" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>I didn't consider it at the time, but my friends said that it was, and now in hindsight I know that it was. It wasn't as BIG a shift as 3.0 -> 3.5e; it didn't invalidate my PHB and require me to buy everything over again (I did need to download errata for 2008-2009 books to bring them into continuity with 2010-2012 books, though). I think this is similar. It may open the floodgates and redo subclass design into D&DNext style thematic design for the rest of 5e. I don't think they will issue errata for past subclasses to make them open to various classes; instead, they'll have soft replacements like The Undead was for The Undying patron. They'll probably create multiclass subclasses that step all over the toes of previous subclasses, to my chagrin, like they're doing with Silverquill stepping all over the Order of Scribes and doing what Scribes should have done in the first place (well, I still think Artificer should have access to it, but Strixhaven subclass design doesn't work with non-full casters). </p><p></p><p>I DO think this points the way to what the design process is looking like internally for 6e. I'm still dubious that that's going to be 2024, though - I don't think there's enough development time to do a full turn over, and I don't think 5e is unpopular enough to do a hard right turn just because it's the 50th anniversary.</p><p></p><p>We might get a decade or more of design like this before a refresh of the game in 2034 that FINALLY retires the 2014 books and starts over with something more like this for every class archetype in time for the 60th anniversary. And I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Rules Cyclopedia in 2024 that collates rules like sea battles from Ghosts of Saltmarsh, planar effects from Tasha's, lineage feats from Xanathar's, optional class features from Tasha's, custom lineages and supernatural gifts, patrons, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8297316, member: 6803643"] I didn't consider it at the time, but my friends said that it was, and now in hindsight I know that it was. It wasn't as BIG a shift as 3.0 -> 3.5e; it didn't invalidate my PHB and require me to buy everything over again (I did need to download errata for 2008-2009 books to bring them into continuity with 2010-2012 books, though). I think this is similar. It may open the floodgates and redo subclass design into D&DNext style thematic design for the rest of 5e. I don't think they will issue errata for past subclasses to make them open to various classes; instead, they'll have soft replacements like The Undead was for The Undying patron. They'll probably create multiclass subclasses that step all over the toes of previous subclasses, to my chagrin, like they're doing with Silverquill stepping all over the Order of Scribes and doing what Scribes should have done in the first place (well, I still think Artificer should have access to it, but Strixhaven subclass design doesn't work with non-full casters). I DO think this points the way to what the design process is looking like internally for 6e. I'm still dubious that that's going to be 2024, though - I don't think there's enough development time to do a full turn over, and I don't think 5e is unpopular enough to do a hard right turn just because it's the 50th anniversary. We might get a decade or more of design like this before a refresh of the game in 2034 that FINALLY retires the 2014 books and starts over with something more like this for every class archetype in time for the 60th anniversary. And I wouldn't be surprised if we get a Rules Cyclopedia in 2024 that collates rules like sea battles from Ghosts of Saltmarsh, planar effects from Tasha's, lineage feats from Xanathar's, optional class features from Tasha's, custom lineages and supernatural gifts, patrons, etc. [/QUOTE]
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