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Unearthed Arcana May 2018: Centaurs and Minotaurs
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<blockquote data-quote="plisnithus8" data-source="post: 7421801" data-attributes="member: 6870553"><p>Are the Monstrous Adventurers in Volo's Guide monsters or people? I think the answer can be both. It seems like you use the word "monster" to define something that is not a person and then say it's not easy to judge where the line is drawn. If that's the case, why bring up monsters in this discussion?</p><p></p><p>There is still debate regarding the use of waterboarding as state approved method of interrogation. Personally, I feel it is torture and and an evil act, but I think adding ideas like that to consider while role-playing can make things more interesting. </p><p>Prisoners in US jails are given haircuts and searched very thoroughly for weapons. I don't think I can agree that cutting off a rhino's horn is a kindness and a minotaur's horn who might have just killed one of friends is evil. It feels like you are saying it is hard to judge what a monster is and that evils don't need to compared, but then it seems like you make that judgement and comparison. I'd rather let the players explore that themselves.</p><p></p><p>I think having PCs squirm about choosing the lesser of two evils is one of the moral dilemmas I mentioned earlier that gives players a different kind of challenge. </p><p>Example 1: Morally speaking, if we don't kill this "monster" that just attacked us, is it safe to tie him up but leave him with his horns that could kill one of us? </p><p>Example 2: Is this minotaur that captured our minotaur and cut off his horns a person or a monster?</p><p></p><p>But most of that discussion is different than my main point. </p><p>Evil PCs capturing a minotaur would probably cut of its horns. Why would they not? </p><p>They don't care if it is an evil act because they are evil. They would certainly take its battle axe. Why would they leave it with horns if they had the intelligence to think of it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="plisnithus8, post: 7421801, member: 6870553"] Are the Monstrous Adventurers in Volo's Guide monsters or people? I think the answer can be both. It seems like you use the word "monster" to define something that is not a person and then say it's not easy to judge where the line is drawn. If that's the case, why bring up monsters in this discussion? There is still debate regarding the use of waterboarding as state approved method of interrogation. Personally, I feel it is torture and and an evil act, but I think adding ideas like that to consider while role-playing can make things more interesting. Prisoners in US jails are given haircuts and searched very thoroughly for weapons. I don't think I can agree that cutting off a rhino's horn is a kindness and a minotaur's horn who might have just killed one of friends is evil. It feels like you are saying it is hard to judge what a monster is and that evils don't need to compared, but then it seems like you make that judgement and comparison. I'd rather let the players explore that themselves. I think having PCs squirm about choosing the lesser of two evils is one of the moral dilemmas I mentioned earlier that gives players a different kind of challenge. Example 1: Morally speaking, if we don't kill this "monster" that just attacked us, is it safe to tie him up but leave him with his horns that could kill one of us? Example 2: Is this minotaur that captured our minotaur and cut off his horns a person or a monster? But most of that discussion is different than my main point. Evil PCs capturing a minotaur would probably cut of its horns. Why would they not? They don't care if it is an evil act because they are evil. They would certainly take its battle axe. Why would they leave it with horns if they had the intelligence to think of it? [/QUOTE]
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