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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 7666948" data-attributes="member: 12032">I'm afraid I think both need significant playtesting.  I believe the new ranger is just better than the battlemaster fighter.  Sure, the fighter gains a few more feats/stats, but honestly one bonus feat at level 6 just isn't that great.  Second wind becomes less important over time, leaving action surge (which is quite powerful).  The hunter ranger already gets significant combat boosting abilities.I also am not seeing the downside of the favored soul.  It seems considerably more powerful than the other sorc. subclasses.  And while I think the sorc. needs some love, I'd rather it be backfilled to the whole class, not to just a new subclass.  That said, I rather like them both.  The only change I'd make (other than dealing with balance issues) is for the ranger to just get the healer feat.</blockquote>