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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7693978" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Sure, you can cherry pick examples, but, is Mind Meld better than a 1st level Comprehend Languages spell? Comprehend Languages is a ritual, so, it's not really limited per day in use, and grants you the power to read as well as understand. And, since Mind Meld is line of sight only, there are times when Message is actually a better choice. You can't Mind Meld with an invisible target, for example. Or even a Hidden one. You want to talk to your scouting thief who has gone around a corner? Message works and Mind Meld doesn't. </p><p></p><p>The only advantage Mind Meld has is the language thing - which is only one way. They can understand you, but, you can't get answers from them unless they share your language. Handy, true, and something cool, but, strictly better than Message? I'm not sure. </p><p></p><p>Which is the point I'm trying to make. The powers that a character (of any class) gets at level X is supposed to be roughly equivalent to the powers that any other class gets at level X. That's how class balance works. And spells work the same way. You can't make a class power (spell/whatever) significantly more powerful than what the other classes get at the same level. Different, true, but, not more powerful. So, Mind Meld allows one way communication with anything, but is limited to line of sight. Message is language dependent, but, not LoS. Sometimes one is better, sometimes the other.</p><p></p><p>What you don't get is a Mind Meld that is better than a first level spell. And since wizards get 9th level spells, including Wish, there's very little a Mystic will be able to do that a wizard can't. They might do it differently, but, rarely better except in very specific circumstances.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7693978, member: 22779"] Sure, you can cherry pick examples, but, is Mind Meld better than a 1st level Comprehend Languages spell? Comprehend Languages is a ritual, so, it's not really limited per day in use, and grants you the power to read as well as understand. And, since Mind Meld is line of sight only, there are times when Message is actually a better choice. You can't Mind Meld with an invisible target, for example. Or even a Hidden one. You want to talk to your scouting thief who has gone around a corner? Message works and Mind Meld doesn't. The only advantage Mind Meld has is the language thing - which is only one way. They can understand you, but, you can't get answers from them unless they share your language. Handy, true, and something cool, but, strictly better than Message? I'm not sure. Which is the point I'm trying to make. The powers that a character (of any class) gets at level X is supposed to be roughly equivalent to the powers that any other class gets at level X. That's how class balance works. And spells work the same way. You can't make a class power (spell/whatever) significantly more powerful than what the other classes get at the same level. Different, true, but, not more powerful. So, Mind Meld allows one way communication with anything, but is limited to line of sight. Message is language dependent, but, not LoS. Sometimes one is better, sometimes the other. What you don't get is a Mind Meld that is better than a first level spell. And since wizards get 9th level spells, including Wish, there's very little a Mystic will be able to do that a wizard can't. They might do it differently, but, rarely better except in very specific circumstances. [/QUOTE]
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