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<blockquote data-quote="TheCosmicKid" data-source="post: 7694461" data-attributes="member: 6683613">&quot;There's no reason for X&quot; does not imply &quot;X is bad&quot;.&nbsp; All you're doing here is subtly shifting the burden of proof.&nbsp; When you're the one complaining about fireball, it's your onus to discredit it, not my onus to justify it.&nbsp; Again, look at what Majoru is saying:&nbsp; &quot;8d6 fireball is bad because it hurts my gameplay in these specific ways.&quot;Then why are we comparing the psion to the wizard?&nbsp; When the wizard gets no healing spells at all, that's simply the extreme of this differing-power-budgets thing I'm talking about.&nbsp; If we added some wizard healing spells, but they were let's say half as powerful as cleric healing, would this make the wizard suddenly underpowered?&nbsp; Of course not.On the same class list?&nbsp; That's not what we're talking about.I actually just happened to run into one preparing for a session today:&nbsp; divination is a level lower but considerably better than contact other plane.&nbsp; It's not a complete apples-to-apples comparison, but if I were a bard looking to choose a question-answering spell I know which one I'd pick.In general, though, evocation is the easiest school in which to notice a &quot;curve&quot; and &quot;known outliers&quot;, because damage is simply a number, and you can easily compare a number to another number.&nbsp; The other schools tend to have spells that produce qualitatively different effects.&nbsp; How do we define a curve for transmutations?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheCosmicKid, post: 7694461, member: 6683613"] "There's no reason for X" does not imply "X is bad". All you're doing here is subtly shifting the burden of proof. When you're the one complaining about [I]fireball[/I], it's your onus to discredit it, not my onus to justify it. Again, look at what Majoru is saying: "8d6 [I]fireball[/I] is bad because it hurts my gameplay in these specific ways." Then why are we comparing the psion to the wizard? When the wizard gets no healing spells at all, that's simply the extreme of this differing-power-budgets thing I'm talking about. If we [I]added[/I] some wizard healing spells, but they were let's say half as powerful as cleric healing, would this make the wizard suddenly underpowered? Of course not. [I]On the same class list?[/I] That's not what we're talking about. I actually just happened to run into one preparing for a session today: [I]divination[/I] is a level lower but considerably better than [I]contact other plane[/I]. It's not a complete apples-to-apples comparison, but if I were a bard looking to choose a question-answering spell I know which one I'd pick. In general, though, evocation is the easiest school in which to notice a "curve" and "known outliers", because damage is simply a number, and you can easily compare a number to another number. The other schools tend to have spells that produce qualitatively different effects. How do we define a curve for transmutations? [/QUOTE]

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