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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 7714662" data-attributes="member: 5100">I would agree with this. Really, this is probably the big argument for putting it in Monk. If you put it in Fighter, all you really get is a variation on the Improved Weapon Specialization feat tree from 3E. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but somewhat competes with Champion for &quot;basic&quot; Fighter. If you put it in Monk, you implicitly have a few more toys to play with.Of course, there are a couple of other options:1) Just say that Kensei is really a function of the Immortal Mystic and move on with life. Not every legacy class should be updated to 5E as stand-alone options. Some of them are covered by other builds, whether core or expanded.2) Create a Kensei base class to resurrect the Book of Nine Swords sort of Wuxia-ish fighting styles. I had mixed feelings about the book, at the time, but would be open to seeing it worked into a new, balanced structure. The problem here is that it might compete with the Fighter class, as a whole, which would be double-plus-ungood, IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 7714662, member: 5100"] I would agree with this. Really, this is probably the big argument for putting it in Monk. If you put it in Fighter, all you really get is a variation on the Improved Weapon Specialization feat tree from 3E. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but somewhat competes with Champion for "basic" Fighter. If you put it in Monk, you implicitly have a few more toys to play with. Of course, there are a couple of other options: 1) Just say that Kensei is really a function of the Immortal Mystic and move on with life. Not every legacy class should be updated to 5E as stand-alone options. Some of them are covered by other builds, whether core or expanded. 2) Create a Kensei base class to resurrect the [U]Book of Nine Swords[/U] sort of Wuxia-ish fighting styles. I had mixed feelings about the book, at the time, but would be open to seeing it worked into a new, balanced structure. The problem here is that it might compete with the Fighter class, as a whole, which would be double-plus-ungood, IMO. [/QUOTE]

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