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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7714699" data-attributes="member: 57494">Only if the base monk had abilities which specifically key off of weapons ... oh wait ...They're still using their weapon; they're just using it for defense instead of offense. Make 2 attacks with your weapon, or make one attack with your weapon, block some attacks, and still kick someone in the face.It's a trade off. Like I said, a trade off between Greatsword vs. Longsword and Shield. Heck, the Soul Knife got a similar &quot;bonus action for twf, or bonus action for +2 AC&quot;.Now, if your complaint is that it's functionally the only ability they get at this level, then yes, I fully agree. Best case, they use something like a longsword in two hands for 1d10 damage; this is only +1 damage more than the quarterstaff they were already probably using. They can also sort of flurry with ranged attacks, which is cool, but not really much; it's just making their ranged about as good as their melee. So, when the ability is functionally +1 damage or -2 damage and +2 AC, I can see the reason someone would complain.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 7714699, member: 57494"] Only if the base monk had abilities which specifically key off of weapons ... oh wait ... They're still using their weapon; they're just using it for defense instead of offense. Make 2 attacks with your weapon, or make one attack with your weapon, block some attacks, and still kick someone in the face. It's a trade off. Like I said, a trade off between Greatsword vs. Longsword and Shield. Heck, the Soul Knife got a similar "bonus action for twf, or bonus action for +2 AC". Now, if your complaint is that it's functionally the only ability they get at this level, then yes, I fully agree. Best case, they use something like a longsword in two hands for 1d10 damage; this is only +1 damage more than the quarterstaff they were already probably using. They can also sort of flurry with ranged attacks, which is cool, but not really much; it's just making their ranged about as good as their melee. So, when the ability is functionally +1 damage or -2 damage and +2 AC, I can see the reason someone would complain. [/QUOTE]

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