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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7967939" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Because the rules state you use the hand holding your focus to do the Somatic components, so casting with a focus only requires a single hand? If you don't realize that is the rule, it might explain how it comes up more often for you than it does for others.Sorry, I've been in like 7 different threads about encumberance and handedness and everything else, and everyone always talks about torches, while lanterns are lighter, last longer, and give more light. Also, Lanterns can be set on the ground and pushed with your feet, or simply tied to your belt with a rope. Freeing your hands if you are truly desperate.Or we are ignoring the minor rules, because they would only every encounter a time when they actually mattered once or twice a campaign, because most of the time they don't matter.I was responding to both you and Parmandur, who kept mentioning that their group only had one individual with the light cantrip. But also this applies to the following scenario. The fighter is holding a shield and a sword, so they can't hold a torch right? But the Rogue is only holding a rapier, so they can hold the torch and provide light for the fighter, so it doesn't matter that the fighter can't hold a torch. So why does it matter that &quot;only one of them had the light cantrip&quot; one of them is enough to give one person without free hands a light source. And the majority of classes would have at least one free hand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7967939, member: 6801228"] Because the rules state you use the hand holding your focus to do the Somatic components, so casting with a focus only requires a single hand? If you don't realize that is the rule, it might explain how it comes up more often for you than it does for others. Sorry, I've been in like 7 different threads about encumberance and handedness and everything else, and everyone always talks about torches, while lanterns are lighter, last longer, and give more light. Also, Lanterns can be set on the ground and pushed with your feet, or simply tied to your belt with a rope. Freeing your hands if you are truly desperate. Or we are ignoring the minor rules, because they would only every encounter a time when they actually mattered once or twice a campaign, because most of the time they don't matter. I was responding to both you and Parmandur, who kept mentioning that their group only had one individual with the light cantrip. But also this applies to the following scenario. The fighter is holding a shield and a sword, so they can't hold a torch right? But the Rogue is only holding a rapier, so they can hold the torch and provide light for the fighter, so it doesn't matter that the fighter can't hold a torch. So why does it matter that "only one of them had the light cantrip" one of them is enough to give one person without free hands a light source. And the majority of classes would have at least one free hand. [/QUOTE]

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