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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8056688" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>I get that. It does feel like mechanically it leans more toward Lich than the Phoenix or Jiaying Johnson or such. Still, maybe it's worth tinkering around with to drift them more apart and really emphasize the Undying as not the spooky patron but the immortality one. </p><p></p><p>I'd like it if they didn't use names so close together, that said. We had the same problem with a previous UA Warlock - the first take on the Celestial Patron was called the Undying Light, and everyone was like, wait wait wait have you already forgotten the Undying?</p><p></p><p>Pro-tip: don't use subclass/class names that have already been used somewhere else in the game. We're already in a mess because of Athlete being both a feat (PHB) and a background (MOT). </p><p></p><p>Maybe we could call this patron "The Living Dead"? "The Death"? "The Risen"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8056688, member: 6803643"] I get that. It does feel like mechanically it leans more toward Lich than the Phoenix or Jiaying Johnson or such. Still, maybe it's worth tinkering around with to drift them more apart and really emphasize the Undying as not the spooky patron but the immortality one. I'd like it if they didn't use names so close together, that said. We had the same problem with a previous UA Warlock - the first take on the Celestial Patron was called the Undying Light, and everyone was like, wait wait wait have you already forgotten the Undying? Pro-tip: don't use subclass/class names that have already been used somewhere else in the game. We're already in a mess because of Athlete being both a feat (PHB) and a background (MOT). Maybe we could call this patron "The Living Dead"? "The Death"? "The Risen"? [/QUOTE]
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