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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8058692" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>Honestly, I prefer "Beguiler" for the Enchantment/Illusionist option - it's got history via the 3.5e PHB 2 (and Ruty Rutenberg & team made a version of it in <em>Xanathar's Lost Notes</em> going that exact way, as a mix of schools, though I'm not wedded to anything in guild content at this time).</p><p></p><p>I've thought about how Graviturgy and Chronurgy might actually be dual schools themselves, but they don't QUITE fit the mold when you look at each of their new spells that were designed for the traditions. In general though, Gravity magic is a mixture of transmutation and conjuration - making things heavier or lighter or summoning forces to weigh you down, like a freakin black hole. Chronurgy is in general Necromancy + Divination - you do the Doctor Strange thing and see multiple future pathlines (divination), plus you can age and kill things with time magic (necromancy). </p><p></p><p>Both of the schools have some evocations though, if I recall, and this gets back to my issue that several of the schools overlap in ways that don't really make sense as separate schools (Evocation and Conjuration are the most clear ones, but then there are necromancy spells that act more like evocations (finger of death) or act more like conjurations (animate dead) or more like divinations (speak with dead), etc, and there's heavy overlap between transmutation and enchantment and illusion and enchantment. </p><p></p><p>But this just gives us more options for dual school traditions.</p><p></p><p>So Necromancy + Illusion = Nethermancy (4e tradition for Essentials wizards), for example.</p><p>I'd love to see a tradition for each combo, plus other non-standard ones like the Bladesinger that take a bite out of other classes' ideas. </p><p></p><p>Wizard had the most subclasses out of the original book, but without going dual, it felt like it had the least room to grow (compare the similarly large PHB Cleric Domains list, where they could grow ad nauseum infinitum).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8058692, member: 6803643"] Honestly, I prefer "Beguiler" for the Enchantment/Illusionist option - it's got history via the 3.5e PHB 2 (and Ruty Rutenberg & team made a version of it in [I]Xanathar's Lost Notes[/I] going that exact way, as a mix of schools, though I'm not wedded to anything in guild content at this time). I've thought about how Graviturgy and Chronurgy might actually be dual schools themselves, but they don't QUITE fit the mold when you look at each of their new spells that were designed for the traditions. In general though, Gravity magic is a mixture of transmutation and conjuration - making things heavier or lighter or summoning forces to weigh you down, like a freakin black hole. Chronurgy is in general Necromancy + Divination - you do the Doctor Strange thing and see multiple future pathlines (divination), plus you can age and kill things with time magic (necromancy). Both of the schools have some evocations though, if I recall, and this gets back to my issue that several of the schools overlap in ways that don't really make sense as separate schools (Evocation and Conjuration are the most clear ones, but then there are necromancy spells that act more like evocations (finger of death) or act more like conjurations (animate dead) or more like divinations (speak with dead), etc, and there's heavy overlap between transmutation and enchantment and illusion and enchantment. But this just gives us more options for dual school traditions. So Necromancy + Illusion = Nethermancy (4e tradition for Essentials wizards), for example. I'd love to see a tradition for each combo, plus other non-standard ones like the Bladesinger that take a bite out of other classes' ideas. Wizard had the most subclasses out of the original book, but without going dual, it felt like it had the least room to grow (compare the similarly large PHB Cleric Domains list, where they could grow ad nauseum infinitum). [/QUOTE]
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