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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8059164" data-attributes="member: 20564">It IS a trade off, so it's good and honest that it feels like one.&nbsp; Something very literally &quot;I'm giving up this to get that&quot; can't be downchecked because it accurately feels like a tradeoff.And it's really straightforward.&nbsp; Get the HP and features on the chart of this class instead of that class.&nbsp; Spellcasting with multiple spellcasting classes is slightly more complicated, but spellcasting single classed characters is also more complicated than the average.Depends how you mean it.&nbsp; If you mean it as &quot;let's add in MC-lite options in addition to MC&quot;, then I am for it.&nbsp; If that will make some tables happy and not take away from other tables, I'm all for it even if I don't use it.If you mean it as &quot;let's add in MC-lite options and take away MC&quot;, that translates to &quot;let's put in options that may be of use to the MC-less tables, at the cost of hurting every table that uses MC&quot;.&nbsp; That's going to be net harm to the game.With MC as a variant, it's existence doesn't hurt any table that doesn't want it.&nbsp; But taking it away does.&nbsp; So as you as you want to add so everyone can play the want I'm for it.&nbsp; It's only if you say &quot;badwrongfun&quot; to a multitude of tables and want to take away MC do we have any disagreement.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 8059164, member: 20564"] It IS a trade off, so it's good and honest that it feels like one. Something very literally "I'm giving up this to get that" can't be downchecked because it accurately feels like a tradeoff. And it's really straightforward. Get the HP and features on the chart of this class instead of that class. Spellcasting with multiple spellcasting classes is slightly more complicated, but spellcasting single classed characters is also more complicated than the average. Depends how you mean it. If you mean it as "let's add in MC-lite options in addition to MC", then I am for it. If that will make some tables happy and not take away from other tables, I'm all for it even if I don't use it. If you mean it as "let's add in MC-lite options and take away MC", that translates to "let's put in options that may be of use to the MC-less tables, at the cost of hurting every table that uses MC". That's going to be net harm to the game. With MC as a variant, it's existence doesn't hurt any table that doesn't want it. But taking it away does. So as you as you want to add so everyone can play the want I'm for it. It's only if you say "badwrongfun" to a multitude of tables and want to take away MC do we have any disagreement. [/QUOTE]

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