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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1377994" data-attributes="member: 892">In addition, if I remember correctly, doesn't The Forgotten Realms book have a Cosmopolitan Feat that allows one to make a cross-class skill into a class skill (I think it does more, but don't have the book so don't know for sure)?  Taken at character creation, the human Int: 8 forgotten Realms Warrior could in theory start with 5 class skills compared to the standard Expert's 6, and still be ahead by a feat as time goes by (The expert could also get 3 class skills for 3 feats to bump his total up to 9 (if also a human with int:8), but this would cut down on feats, which the expert has less to spend, and besides, if there are diminishing returns, the benefit from 2 to 5 skill points/level would be more than that from 6 to 9, right?).  So I still think that the expert got the shaft.But I eagerly await pawsplay's non-linear calculations.  I may still be missing the point, and I would welcome an explanation of how the expert is not worse than the warrior, all things considered.</blockquote>