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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1382008" data-attributes="member: 892">Frostmarrow: The xp chart looks interesting.  On synergies, I guess their value depends on the character concept.  For instance, imagine an expert that is a scout and locks and traps person.  Well, the average expert can take hide, move silently, spot, listen, search, open locks and disable device, if human.  Search gives a synergy bonuses to one's survival roll to detect tracks that don't have a high DC (which is good, since the expert has no points to spare for  the survival roll).  So we have a minor synergy, and a character that I assume is not sub-par, since scouting and traps n locks are both useful functions.  To get synergy bonuses, the character is forced to get more skill points by increasing INT, but that comes at the cost of Dex, Con, or Str, if this character is going to see combat at all (and I assume the character will see some combat).    And the only other synergy I can see, assuming that the points are there, is a knowledge skill that gives a synergy to Search to detect secret doors (but not, alas, traps).  And note, that if I was not human I would have even less skill points to play with (although an elf would get nice racial bonuses to three of the skills above, and a useful Dex bonus for three of the others).Now there are synergies out there for other concepts.  The tumbling/jumping acrobat type has synergies, and a half-elf "face" expert can absolutely cheese out with diplomacy synergy.  But these are specific concepts.  Since generics are meant to cover a wide variety of concepts, synergy is hit or miss.  Nice if you concept grants skills that allow for it (i.e. skills that either give or get synergy) but not available for everyone.  So that's why I gave a 1/2 feat value for the average expert, although for some experts the value will be 0 and for others the value might be considerable.  Similarly, the more weapons the expert is likely to use in his career, the more she is hurt by not having the warrior's BAB.  If she uses one, and only one, weapon type, then one feat per BAB is right.  Otherwise, the count should be increased (by how much depends on how often a second weapon is used, how often a third weapon is used, how often the character is forced to fight unarmed, etc.)Jens: I am slow today.  What is ASF?</blockquote>

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