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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 7709050" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Look, it is ok that you don't like the sorcerer. But you are going too far by saying it is unneeded and invalid. Yes, maybe the Lore master could be on line with all other classes, maybe the sorcerer is underpowered the odd one out. But to then go out and say that the solution is to get rid of it, that is too far. </p><p></p><p>Can you have a wizard that actively wants to get rid f his magic?, That didn't chose to have magic? that isn't a bookworm? That isn't actively seeking for more magic? That has an irrational and emotional approach to magic?. The answer to all of these is no. It has always been no and will remain to be no.What if you want one of these to be yes? the answer is the sorcerer. The sorcerer fills the gaps that the wizard won't and cannot cover by definition. As long as the wizard remains an scholar at heart there will be need and conceptual space for the sorcerer. (When did you see Elsa studying old dusty tomes to prepare her magics for the day? Surely her quest for control was an intellectual voyage, was it?)</p><p></p><p>I know I'm at an extreme were I just can't stand all of the trappings that make the wizard a wizard. But I'm not the only one that likes the sorcerer precisely because it's free of these, and there is plenty of players that like the sorcerer for so many other reasons. Getting rid of the sorcerer at this point is a net loss for the game. It might mean more toys for the spoiled wizard, but it also means that many archetypes and characters just go puff and vanish without remedy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 7709050, member: 6689464"] Look, it is ok that you don't like the sorcerer. But you are going too far by saying it is unneeded and invalid. Yes, maybe the Lore master could be on line with all other classes, maybe the sorcerer is underpowered the odd one out. But to then go out and say that the solution is to get rid of it, that is too far. Can you have a wizard that actively wants to get rid f his magic?, That didn't chose to have magic? that isn't a bookworm? That isn't actively seeking for more magic? That has an irrational and emotional approach to magic?. The answer to all of these is no. It has always been no and will remain to be no.What if you want one of these to be yes? the answer is the sorcerer. The sorcerer fills the gaps that the wizard won't and cannot cover by definition. As long as the wizard remains an scholar at heart there will be need and conceptual space for the sorcerer. (When did you see Elsa studying old dusty tomes to prepare her magics for the day? Surely her quest for control was an intellectual voyage, was it?) I know I'm at an extreme were I just can't stand all of the trappings that make the wizard a wizard. But I'm not the only one that likes the sorcerer precisely because it's free of these, and there is plenty of players that like the sorcerer for so many other reasons. Getting rid of the sorcerer at this point is a net loss for the game. It might mean more toys for the spoiled wizard, but it also means that many archetypes and characters just go puff and vanish without remedy. [/QUOTE]
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