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Message: <blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8167079" data-attributes="member: 72555">Suppose you have a Charisma of 12.Whenever you roll a Charisma save and the d20 is under 12, treat it as a 12.  So your min save is 13.If you have a 20 strength, your min save is 31, becausr any d20 under 20 becomes a 20.  (in fact you autosave with a 31; no need to roll)If you have a 24 strength, your min save is 37.  This is functionally the same as 31; you have (by design) broken bounded accuracy on strength saves.  You become unstoppable by strength based saves.I edtend this to all non-intelligence based saves.  For this to work on high level monsters, you need other investments in the stat.  A barbarian with 14 cha and proficiency in it has a min save of 22; enough that non-epic-tier enemies cannot banish them.  Throw in a 19 cha item (attunement) and they become effectively banish-immune (29 min save).  This is intended; getting such "perfect" saves is a large investment and you cannot get it for every save.We apply this to strength and con checks, and all non-int saves.The barbarian had this ability for strength checks in the vannila 5e.  I just extended it.</blockquote>