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Unexpected TPK: Unbalanced, bad circumstances, or fluke?
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<blockquote data-quote="Asmor" data-source="post: 4321002" data-attributes="member: 1154"><p>Two PCs, both level 1. A warlock and a cleric.</p><p></p><p>Two fire beetles.</p><p></p><p>The fire beetles both use their fire spray, each catching both PCs in the spray. Coincidentally, they both do 12 damage. The Warlock takes 12, the Cleric takes 24, dropping him before he's even had a chance to act.</p><p></p><p>Against my strong urgings, the warlock runs off to try and fight the beetles on his own terms rather than try a heal check on the cleric.</p><p></p><p>I do a major fudge (not rolling to recharge the beetles' fire spray) and still manage to mess up the warlock. Eventually he kills 1 beetle, then with 1 hp left uses an action point to shift out of melee, move to the cleric, and make a heal check. He fails. Takes 5 damage and is dropped. </p><p></p><p>Miraculously, the cleric rolls a 20 and is up. The beetle hits the 'lok for another 6 damage, taking him to -10; another 3 damage and he's dead. So the cleric does minor word, stands up, action point to move and healing strike. They manage to kill the last beetle.</p><p></p><p>This was a straight up level 1 encounter. Two level 1 brutes vs. two level 1 PCs. If not for some big fudging and a major stroke of luck, it would have been a TPK.</p><p></p><p>So was this a result of poor tactics (fighting without trying to heal cleric), a result of bad luck (cleric getting hit by both attacks, and each attack doing better than average damage), bad circumstances (PCs being within 3 spots of each other and only 2 PCs present), unbalanced monsters, or just a complete fluke?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Asmor, post: 4321002, member: 1154"] Two PCs, both level 1. A warlock and a cleric. Two fire beetles. The fire beetles both use their fire spray, each catching both PCs in the spray. Coincidentally, they both do 12 damage. The Warlock takes 12, the Cleric takes 24, dropping him before he's even had a chance to act. Against my strong urgings, the warlock runs off to try and fight the beetles on his own terms rather than try a heal check on the cleric. I do a major fudge (not rolling to recharge the beetles' fire spray) and still manage to mess up the warlock. Eventually he kills 1 beetle, then with 1 hp left uses an action point to shift out of melee, move to the cleric, and make a heal check. He fails. Takes 5 damage and is dropped. Miraculously, the cleric rolls a 20 and is up. The beetle hits the 'lok for another 6 damage, taking him to -10; another 3 damage and he's dead. So the cleric does minor word, stands up, action point to move and healing strike. They manage to kill the last beetle. This was a straight up level 1 encounter. Two level 1 brutes vs. two level 1 PCs. If not for some big fudging and a major stroke of luck, it would have been a TPK. So was this a result of poor tactics (fighting without trying to heal cleric), a result of bad luck (cleric getting hit by both attacks, and each attack doing better than average damage), bad circumstances (PCs being within 3 spots of each other and only 2 PCs present), unbalanced monsters, or just a complete fluke? [/QUOTE]
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