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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrGrenadine" data-source="post: 4322281" data-attributes="member: 62619">Setting aside the nasty tone, which is completely unnecessary in an otherwise civil and interesting conversation, it seems like you're assuming that:The characters had faced fire beetles before, and therefore knew exactly what they were up against.OrThe players were using meta-game knowledge of the fire beetle stat block to know exactly what the characters were up against.You're right--D&D isn't a miniatures game, and as such, its just good RP for players *not* to act on information that the characters wouldn't have.So, if the characters didn't know anything about fire beetles, it seems reasonable for the characters to try to face down a couple of big bugs, and then find themselves on the (near) losing end of the argument when the bugs turned out to have a pretty devastating area attack.Sometimes, despite good tactics, and with some bad luck, battles go awry.  That's D&D!  Roll up a new character and try again--hopefully all the wiser.MrGp.s.  If the characters had already faced fire beetles, and knew they were overpowered, and tried to fight them anyway, well, then yeah--thats on them.  But still, there's no need for the tone.  [OBVIOUS] Its just a game. [/OBVIOUS]</blockquote>