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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bestone" data-source="post: 3354951" data-attributes="member: 48880">What are you talking about his knowlege over the raw?Read the secion under sunder, and it states just that, that it can be used as a meleeattack. Raw agree's with this article.It makes sense that you can sunder on an attack of opportunityIt states under sunder you can replace your melee attack with a sunderYou can make multiple sunder attacks in a round as long as you got enough bab..but no aoo?You can make a melee attack on an attack of opportunityIts now been stated on something on wizards.comYet you still try to say it says you cant in the rules? The argument against it is just pulling straws, very thin straws at that.Because of the table in the phb?The rules under sunder clearly state what you can do with it, and no where in the sunder description does it say you may take a standard action to sunder......Your straw pulling comes to the table, where it lists actions you "CAN" do in combat, and the fact that sunder (attack) is listed as a standard action.It says sunder (attack) because its part of an attack action, why is it in the table like that? because if you were in combat, and were to do a sunder, it would indeed be a standard action....because its a melee attack.....????Using this logic, you cant make a melee attack either, cause thats listed as a standard action! oh noes, how could that be, when you attack in a round....it counts as a....standard action..??? no!why you say, isnt it listed with trip grapple and disarm? well those attacks all function very differently, with touch attacks and opposed rolls, they have very specific things in thier entry about how they work. While sunder doesnt, it only says you can use it as a melee attack.So yes, i know im gonna get an earfull about your grasping at straws, but really, your telling me the text for sunder itself, the rules it lists under sunder, dont work cause its listed as a table of things you CAN do in combat, and if you happen to sunder that it *and most obviously* counts as a standard action?So dont go telling me its raw, cause if you read the rule, under sunder, how its WRITTEN it clearly states how its written how it works.</blockquote>

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