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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bestone" data-source="post: 3358870" data-attributes="member: 48880">AND i've already quoted hyp to agreeing that the rule as written under sunder is taken in the way i've said it works.Your working off an assumption that because its a standard action, the that text would permit you to use it as an attack of opportunity doesnt apply. And i ask you to quote a rule that proves your assumption.when in fact, the only thing it says under attack types, is they tell you how long the action takes to perform.You dont ignore the text of a rule, because the rule is jus that, a rule, it tells you how you can do it, and how its done. Tables are vague, and this is why they are secondary. Text is primary, and by the text, as its written, you can use sunder on an aoo.if you apply the secondary information from the tables, sure its a standard action, but the primary text still, as written, says you can use sunder on an aoo.We all seem to be in agreeance on what the rules under sunder state.Now show me a rule that states you can dis-regard that ruling of text simply because sundering counts as a standard action?You wont find one, because regardless of what type of action something is considered (and an action only tells you how long something takes to do, AS STATED IN THE PHB AND QUOTED BY HYP). The rules still state how you can use it, and all are agree'd on what the rules for sunder state.As it comes down to it, We all know what the description of sunder states, and how it states you can use it.I dont have to prove otherwise, i make no claim otherwise, i say it works as its written. No rules gymnastics, nothing fancy.Those arguing against still have to prove how you get to dis-regard the rules for sunder, as written, because it is a standard action. You havent been able to thus far, and you wont be able to, because there is no such rule.You can cling to the fact its a standard action all you want, that proves nothing.The primary source of information, the text, tells you how to use it.The table, tells you "in essence" how long it takes to do itAnd even considering that action types are simply how long it takes to do it, whats so far fetched about sundering on an aoo? when it takes the same amount of time *as suggested by the action types description* as a melee attack.</blockquote>

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