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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4791814" data-attributes="member: 11821"><p>You seem to have a very strong concept of what you want this character to do... If your primary focus is, "I want to attack with two waraxes a lot," it sounds like you should just make a dual-wielding Ranger or a Fighter with Dual Strike. Why be a Paladin if the class doesn't work in the ways you want your character to work?</p><p></p><p>There's nothing stopping you from using the class writeup for Ranger, then re-skinning it to some kind of holy warrior of Tempus or Pelor. Get your DM to allow Religion instead of Nature/Dungeoneering, and you're set. If you want, you can easily multiclass over to Cleric or Paladin and pick up some of the perks, there, too. I think you'd find it a lot easier to make your character concept work in this way than with the paladin class you don't seem to care for very much.</p><p></p><p>With Twin Strike, there's no restrictions about whether both attacks are ranged or melee. I'd say mixing and matching is fine - but you're opening yourself up to an opportunity attack from the guy you just hit in melee. With Dual Strike (the Fighter at-will), both need to be melee on the same target.</p><p></p><p>As for Tempus, I'm kind of confused. I'm not sure if you're attracted to the overpowered Channel Divinity or to the flavor. If the flavor is to your style, just ignore the Channel Divinity feats and go with it.</p><p></p><p>What you're looking at, sadly, is arguably the most-poorly-made 4e class. Paladins really just can't catch a break; they can work with very specific builds, but for what you're trying to do, it's sadly not well supported right now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's nothing stopping anyone from using two weapons. Heck; there are two feats for it - one gives you a damage bonus, and the other a defense bonus. I've always thought the mindset of, "I have two weapons, therefore I attack twice" was flawed, all the way since 1e.... I'd rather look at your paired weapons as just a single weapon, but maybe that's just me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Honestly, I don't know. I wouldn't, personally. I don't think it's worth paragon multiclassing a paladin in order to pick it up.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not that it's too complex - it's that it's too simple. The power pretty much spells it out. I don't think most DMs would have a problem house-ruling Twin Strike to let you use your Strength for Heavy Thrown weapons; I'm just giving you the official word at the moment.</p><p></p><p>-O</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4791814, member: 11821"] You seem to have a very strong concept of what you want this character to do... If your primary focus is, "I want to attack with two waraxes a lot," it sounds like you should just make a dual-wielding Ranger or a Fighter with Dual Strike. Why be a Paladin if the class doesn't work in the ways you want your character to work? There's nothing stopping you from using the class writeup for Ranger, then re-skinning it to some kind of holy warrior of Tempus or Pelor. Get your DM to allow Religion instead of Nature/Dungeoneering, and you're set. If you want, you can easily multiclass over to Cleric or Paladin and pick up some of the perks, there, too. I think you'd find it a lot easier to make your character concept work in this way than with the paladin class you don't seem to care for very much. With Twin Strike, there's no restrictions about whether both attacks are ranged or melee. I'd say mixing and matching is fine - but you're opening yourself up to an opportunity attack from the guy you just hit in melee. With Dual Strike (the Fighter at-will), both need to be melee on the same target. As for Tempus, I'm kind of confused. I'm not sure if you're attracted to the overpowered Channel Divinity or to the flavor. If the flavor is to your style, just ignore the Channel Divinity feats and go with it. What you're looking at, sadly, is arguably the most-poorly-made 4e class. Paladins really just can't catch a break; they can work with very specific builds, but for what you're trying to do, it's sadly not well supported right now. There's nothing stopping anyone from using two weapons. Heck; there are two feats for it - one gives you a damage bonus, and the other a defense bonus. I've always thought the mindset of, "I have two weapons, therefore I attack twice" was flawed, all the way since 1e.... I'd rather look at your paired weapons as just a single weapon, but maybe that's just me. Honestly, I don't know. I wouldn't, personally. I don't think it's worth paragon multiclassing a paladin in order to pick it up. It's not that it's too complex - it's that it's too simple. The power pretty much spells it out. I don't think most DMs would have a problem house-ruling Twin Strike to let you use your Strength for Heavy Thrown weapons; I'm just giving you the official word at the moment. -O [/QUOTE]
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