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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4791977" data-attributes="member: 11821">I get that you don't dig 4e.  That's cool, not everyone does.But do you want help to try and improve your enjoyment of the 4e game you're playing, or do you want to talk about the ways in which you like other games better?I mean, we can help with the former.  If you'd rather be playing something else, though, we can't help with that...  I like 1e, 2e, and 3e also - but you're asking about a 4e character in a 4e rules forum, and taking digs at the system.My honest advice is, whatever RPG you're playing, be it D&D, Shadowrun, WFRP, GURPS, etc., dive in and experience it.  Give it a fair shake and go with the flow rather than fighting against it.  If it turns out you're still not enjoying yourself, then it's time to decide if gaming with your game group is worth playing in a system you don't like.  If it is, then we can help make your character more to your liking.  If it's not, and you think the fact you're not having fun is taking away from everyone else's fun, it might be time to move on.For this character, you're really fighting against the system.  Tell us what you'd like your character to do, and we'll try to help you with the mechanics end of things.  Hopefully, you'll end up having a better time than you are now.-O</blockquote>