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<blockquote data-quote="kerbarian" data-source="post: 4866442" data-attributes="member: 40393">There are a lot of ways to build a fighter.&nbsp; As you've noticed, high Con + longsword isn't such a great one.A few fighter builds I find interesting:1) Polearm fighter.&nbsp; With Footwork Lure and Polearm Momentum (MP feat), you can act as a bit of a controller, sliding enemies and knocking them prone with your at-will.&nbsp; This build also fits the requirements for Rain of Blows (if you use a greatspear), which was a big deal before the nerf.&nbsp; At paragon tier, you can go with Polearm Gamble for even more control.&nbsp; With any +2 Str race, you can start with 18 Str and 15/14 for Dex/Wis, which lets you meet the prerequisites for Polearm Momentum at level 4.&nbsp; Eladrin can also work, and they have the very nice Eladrin Soldier feat (for greatspear).2) Battlerage fighter.&nbsp; This is pretty straightforward.&nbsp; With high Str and high Con, Brash Strike is a great offensive at-will (striker-level damage), and Crushing Surge is a great defensive at-will.&nbsp; You'll be tougher because of the temporary hps, but your attack bonus will be lower (no weapon talent, and a +2 proficiency weapon).&nbsp; Even for this build, which makes the most use of Con, I wouldn't put Con higher than Str.&nbsp; Multiclassing to barbarian is also attractive for this build.3) Sticky fighter.&nbsp; If you want to really focus on being a defender and keeping attacks away from the rest of the party, a dwarf fighter with Devoted Challenge (MP) is great.&nbsp; The version I like is 18 Str, 15 Con, 15 Wis (pumping Str and Wis), with Dwarven Weapon Training, a waraxe/craghammer, and a heavy shield.&nbsp; Brash strike is still a strong offensive at-will, and Footwork Lure helps pull enemies off of your allies.&nbsp; Your combat challenge and opportunity attacks are a big threat, and you can add Distracting Shield and eventually the Warpriest paragon path to make yourself even stickier.If what you want is to wade into combat and lay waste to the piles of enemies that throw themselves upon you, you might also consider going with a barbarian rather than a fighter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kerbarian, post: 4866442, member: 40393"] There are a lot of ways to build a fighter. As you've noticed, high Con + longsword isn't such a great one. A few fighter builds I find interesting: 1) Polearm fighter. With Footwork Lure and Polearm Momentum (MP feat), you can act as a bit of a controller, sliding enemies and knocking them prone with your at-will. This build also fits the requirements for Rain of Blows (if you use a greatspear), which was a big deal before the nerf. At paragon tier, you can go with Polearm Gamble for even more control. With any +2 Str race, you can start with 18 Str and 15/14 for Dex/Wis, which lets you meet the prerequisites for Polearm Momentum at level 4. Eladrin can also work, and they have the very nice Eladrin Soldier feat (for greatspear). 2) Battlerage fighter. This is pretty straightforward. With high Str and high Con, Brash Strike is a great offensive at-will (striker-level damage), and Crushing Surge is a great defensive at-will. You'll be tougher because of the temporary hps, but your attack bonus will be lower (no weapon talent, and a +2 proficiency weapon). Even for this build, which makes the most use of Con, I wouldn't put Con higher than Str. Multiclassing to barbarian is also attractive for this build. 3) Sticky fighter. If you want to really focus on being a defender and keeping attacks away from the rest of the party, a dwarf fighter with Devoted Challenge (MP) is great. The version I like is 18 Str, 15 Con, 15 Wis (pumping Str and Wis), with Dwarven Weapon Training, a waraxe/craghammer, and a heavy shield. Brash strike is still a strong offensive at-will, and Footwork Lure helps pull enemies off of your allies. Your combat challenge and opportunity attacks are a big threat, and you can add Distracting Shield and eventually the Warpriest paragon path to make yourself even stickier. If what you want is to wade into combat and lay waste to the piles of enemies that throw themselves upon you, you might also consider going with a barbarian rather than a fighter. [/QUOTE]

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