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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 4785364" data-attributes="member: 82504">Most people spend a healing surge on getting there second wind... Invoking ones spirit digging in deep, thinking about the things in life that really make my juices flow the hero getting his second wind is inspiring himself... Sometimes listening to an inspirational song helps my morale... ah yes thats bardic influence.. etc. In real life a second wind is and adrenaline surge which occurs when your body decides muscle fatigue usually has reach a level of pain that performance needs demand you ignore the pain, this drug your body makes also induces a euphoric response. If somebody attacks you moments after the hit of bio joy juice you are going to be able to avert a lot more damage ie you have the hit points. Your body can make this happen only so much and only so often in the game that is limited by your healing surges and the second wind rules...In real life a person can perform acts of self hypnosis and inspiring things cause some of the same chemical pain killing performance altering biochemestry that we are calling an adrenaline surge above ... it isnt the same exactly and caused by something different ... but the effects are very similar... In the game your inspirational types can help you access more of those.In the game that physical surge is mingled with luck and hope and morale and similar things I wouldnt mind having luck points separate from adrenaline points separate from morale.. etc...but the layer of complexity is not fun for many people.All that healing surges do is add a fluctuating &quot;deep resource&quot; level on the same thing that hit points model .. luck, energy/vigor, morale... all of those are now layered. Fundamental roleplaying error... this is.Keeping a distinction between me and the character I know his hit points and strength exactly he certainly doesn't why do you think he does.Players know how many hitpoints there characters have.. &nbsp;&quot;Do you have a player what is his name and does he tell you how much luck you have?&quot;In movies heros make comeback turn arounds.. the game gives you the &quot;player&quot; control over that not the &quot;characters&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; D&amp;D is not great at &quot;immersion&quot; never has been.... too much abstraction for that, do you have the DM record all hitpoints and make all the die rolls?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 4785364, member: 82504"] Most people spend a healing surge on getting there second wind... Invoking ones spirit digging in deep, thinking about the things in life that really make my juices flow the hero getting his second wind is inspiring himself... Sometimes listening to an inspirational song helps my morale... ah yes thats bardic influence.. etc. In real life a second wind is and adrenaline surge which occurs when your body decides muscle fatigue usually has reach a level of pain that performance needs demand you ignore the pain, this drug your body makes also induces a euphoric response. If somebody attacks you moments after the hit of bio joy juice you are going to be able to avert a lot more damage ie you have the hit points. Your body can make this happen only so much and only so often in the game that is limited by your healing surges and the second wind rules... In real life a person can perform acts of self hypnosis and inspiring things cause some of the same chemical pain killing performance altering biochemestry that we are calling an adrenaline surge above ... it isnt the same exactly and caused by something different ... but the effects are very similar... In the game your inspirational types can help you access more of those. In the game that physical surge is mingled with luck and hope and morale and similar things I wouldnt mind having luck points separate from adrenaline points separate from morale.. etc...but the layer of complexity is not fun for many people. All that healing surges do is add a fluctuating "deep resource" level on the same thing that hit points model .. luck, energy/vigor, morale... all of those are now layered. Fundamental roleplaying error... this is. Keeping a distinction between me and the character I know his hit points and strength exactly he certainly doesn't why do you think he does. Players know how many hitpoints there characters have.. "Do you have a player what is his name and does he tell you how much luck you have?" In movies heros make comeback turn arounds.. the game gives you the "player" control over that not the "characters". D&D is not great at "immersion" never has been.... too much abstraction for that, do you have the DM record all hitpoints and make all the die rolls? [/QUOTE]

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