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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WhatGravitas" data-source="post: 3912713" data-attributes="member: 33132">And that's a good idea. As much as the Epic Level Handbook is maligned, the idea to keep the spread equal was good (ELH gives equal progression for saves and BAB, I guess that's also in the DMG, but I've never read it up there).Not to say it's not just a practical need, as the d20 only gives a variable value from 1-20 - greater differences between to characters in the same group have very, very odd effects.So they knew this for a while, and after years of looking at 3E, they've seen that that problem doesn't just start with 20+, but a long time before.Good move, I think.Interestingly, it has another effect: While the success/fail rates are kept similar and the big numbers are avoided, you still "feel" getting better, as you roll higher consistently - so we have the good thing "I'm hitting AC 30 without breaking a sweat now" (i.e. progression) without the ugly.EDIT: That makes *very* clear what they mean with "feels like levels 4 on level 1". It's probably not the survivability (though it may be), but the distinguished feeling of the characters, as on first level, a high Dex wizard can completely out-crossbow the average Dex fighter... which shouldn't happen.Cheers, LT.</blockquote>