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Unintended(?) Consequence of No More X-Mas Tree?
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<blockquote data-quote="Njall" data-source="post: 3919828" data-attributes="member: 54719"><p>Not sure I agree with this, either. There is nothing unbalanced or wrongbadfun about making gaining levels harder the higher level you are. As you get closer to the pinnacle of achievement, it is harder to surpass where you are. This is not unlike increasing velocity -- the faster you are going, the harder it is to go even faster.</p></blockquote><p></p><p>0xp =/= growing slowly.</p><p>0xp = not growing at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure you understand that I meant " could you provide some proof that said numbers assume that the implied checks (namely, AB vs AC and ST vs DCs ) work even without magic"? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. After every combat. </p><p>For the average fighter, AC caps at around 23, with a tower shield.</p><p>This means that hitting him is a trivial task for just about anything in the MM, after CR 5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You cannot just scale CR back. Monsters scale much better than PCs in regards to AC and AB. I addressed this in my last post <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, some do. Some monsters can be virtually "one shotted" everytime you meet one. They don't pose any credible threat.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>HP in D&D are not assumed to be a measure of physical health.</p><p>You might have lost 30 HP, but this doesn't mean you're hurt, maybe you've simply turned a potentially lethal blow in a near miss, or avoided the blow (BTW, this has been in the game for the past...3 editions, IIRC. Don't have my OD&D books here to check right now).</p><p>I don't know you, but whenever I parry a blow with a sword or a staff I don't need to rest in bed for a day to regain my "lost HP". </p><p>This is not a "realistic consequence", it's just silly.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're going to stick to semanthics, I'll do the same: it's in a rulebook, nowhere in the book it says it's more optional than anything else in the book, then it's a rule.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Njall, post: 3919828, member: 54719"] Not sure I agree with this, either. There is nothing unbalanced or wrongbadfun about making gaining levels harder the higher level you are. As you get closer to the pinnacle of achievement, it is harder to surpass where you are. This is not unlike increasing velocity -- the faster you are going, the harder it is to go even faster. [/quote] 0xp =/= growing slowly. 0xp = not growing at all. I'm sure you understand that I meant " could you provide some proof that said numbers assume that the implied checks (namely, AB vs AC and ST vs DCs ) work even without magic"? Yes. After every combat. For the average fighter, AC caps at around 23, with a tower shield. This means that hitting him is a trivial task for just about anything in the MM, after CR 5. You cannot just scale CR back. Monsters scale much better than PCs in regards to AC and AB. I addressed this in my last post :) Yes, some do. Some monsters can be virtually "one shotted" everytime you meet one. They don't pose any credible threat. HP in D&D are not assumed to be a measure of physical health. You might have lost 30 HP, but this doesn't mean you're hurt, maybe you've simply turned a potentially lethal blow in a near miss, or avoided the blow (BTW, this has been in the game for the past...3 editions, IIRC. Don't have my OD&D books here to check right now). I don't know you, but whenever I parry a blow with a sword or a staff I don't need to rest in bed for a day to regain my "lost HP". This is not a "realistic consequence", it's just silly. If you're going to stick to semanthics, I'll do the same: it's in a rulebook, nowhere in the book it says it's more optional than anything else in the book, then it's a rule. [/QUOTE]
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