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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3921663" data-attributes="member: 18280">Quite literally, yes.&nbsp; And there are still people today who believe in, and are on the lookout for, invisible people in the real world.&nbsp; People are killed for being witches right now, quite possibly even while you are reading this.&nbsp; Whether or not real magic exists, the belief in real magic exists.However, so far as I know no one spreads out by default to avoid fireballs (only to avoid enemy fire).If we go so far as to claim that the real world is low/no magic, then I will point out that for most of human history, the vast majority of people knew something about magic, and specifically knew counter-measures.&nbsp; Some of them are even subsumed into our culture, such as when a person says &quot;Bless you&quot; when you sneeze.&nbsp; It is quite easy to find people in Toronto who know signs to ward off ill luck.&nbsp; We like to think that we are enlightened, but we still use medicines that have no more proven effect than placebos.Take a look at this:&nbsp; <a href="http://harlcazz.bravepages.com/library/Paganism/Pagan%20History%20and%20Facts/Witchhunts%20in%20Africa.htm" target="_blank">http://harlcazz.bravepages.com/library/Paganism/Pagan History and Facts/Witchhunts in Africa.htm</a><a href="http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&amp;cid=1119503543818" target="_blank">http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&amp;cid=1119503543818</a><a href="http://www.spellsandmagic.com/" target="_blank">http://www.spellsandmagic.com/</a>Still sure that charms and countercharms don't belong in a low/no magic world?RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3921663, member: 18280"] Quite literally, yes. And there are still people today who believe in, and are on the lookout for, invisible people in the real world. People are killed for being witches right now, quite possibly even while you are reading this. Whether or not real magic exists, the belief in real magic exists. However, so far as I know no one spreads out by default to avoid fireballs (only to avoid enemy fire). If we go so far as to claim that the real world is low/no magic, then I will point out that for most of human history, the vast majority of people knew something about magic, and specifically knew counter-measures. Some of them are even subsumed into our culture, such as when a person says "Bless you" when you sneeze. It is quite easy to find people in Toronto who know signs to ward off ill luck. We like to think that we are enlightened, but we still use medicines that have no more proven effect than placebos. Take a look at this: [url]http://harlcazz.bravepages.com/library/Paganism/Pagan%20History%20and%20Facts/Witchhunts%20in%20Africa.htm[/url] [url]http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503543818[/url] [url]http://www.spellsandmagic.com/[/url] Still sure that charms and countercharms don't belong in a low/no magic world? RC [/QUOTE]

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