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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6666739" data-attributes="member: 92511">In the case of TK, specifically, I have to disagree.I mean, yes, they should have smaller, more minor effects at lower levels. They should absolutely obtain &quot;Wizard spell level&quot; TK significantly earlier than 9th level.By the time a wizard can duplicate TK power via their 5th level spell, the telekinetic Psychic at 9th level ought to be picking up and throwing boulders, stopping an entire volley of arrows or thrown spears, turning them around midair, and firing them all back at their senders, generating force domes/spheres equivalent to the &quot;resilient sphere&quot; spell to protect, completely (for as long as they can maintain it/withstand the pressure), all physical and energy attacks: breath weapons, spells of any source/variety, giant's pounding it with fists, whatever.Similarly, the telepath psychic should be able to produce &quot;Detect Thoughts&quot; as the spell at, either 1st level or for 0 or 1 PP. By the time they are 3rd level, they should be able to do more than scrape surface thoughts. They should be able to delve into memories, at least, if not really &quot;dig down in there&quot; to alter memories or probe for specific information.But I love me some Prof. X, Jean Grey, pre-ninja Psylocke, and want psionics producing those kinds of characters. D&amp;D [psionics] hasn't really ever gotten that right [despite the blatant rip-off of post-ninja Psylocke for the &quot;soulknife&quot;].</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6666739, member: 92511"] In the case of TK, specifically, I have to disagree. I mean, yes, they should have smaller, more minor effects at lower levels. They should absolutely obtain "Wizard spell level" TK significantly earlier than 9th level. By the time a wizard can duplicate TK power via their 5th level spell, the telekinetic Psychic at 9th level ought to be picking up and throwing boulders, stopping an entire volley of arrows or thrown spears, turning them around midair, and firing them all back at their senders, generating force domes/spheres equivalent to the "resilient sphere" spell to protect, completely (for as long as they can maintain it/withstand the pressure), all physical and energy attacks: breath weapons, spells of any source/variety, giant's pounding it with fists, whatever. Similarly, the telepath psychic should be able to produce "Detect Thoughts" as the spell at, either 1st level or for 0 or 1 PP. By the time they are 3rd level, they should be able to do more than scrape surface thoughts. They should be able to delve into memories, at least, if not really "dig down in there" to alter memories or probe for specific information. But I love me some Prof. X, Jean Grey, pre-ninja Psylocke, and want psionics producing those kinds of characters. D&D [psionics] hasn't really ever gotten that right [despite the blatant rip-off of post-ninja Psylocke for the "soulknife"]. [/QUOTE]

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