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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 5994953" data-attributes="member: 17106">I think this is a problem because you've conflated the PF and 3e crowds; these are two separate player bases, both significant in size.Like you, I don't particularly like the PF setting and even the game itself is a mixed bag but like Paizo. Some 3e players might be a bit squirrely about voting the Paizo option in the poll however, which I suspect is why this response skews positive towards 5e.From a 3e perspective, I still don't see a game that is an evolution of the rules or moves them forwards; the best that can be said is that it has some old-school strengths and it isn't as big of a step backwards for players and especially DMs as 4e was. Even as successful as many of the d20 offshoots have been, I still can't believe that WotC hasn't tried to look at 3e, address its problems, and create a new and better version of D&amp;D; that would revolutionize things the same way the original 3e release did.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 5994953, member: 17106"] I think this is a problem because you've conflated the PF and 3e crowds; these are two separate player bases, both significant in size. Like you, I don't particularly like the PF setting and even the game itself is a mixed bag but like Paizo. Some 3e players might be a bit squirrely about voting the Paizo option in the poll however, which I suspect is why this response skews positive towards 5e. From a 3e perspective, I still don't see a game that is an evolution of the rules or moves them forwards; the best that can be said is that it has some old-school strengths and it isn't as big of a step backwards for players and especially DMs as 4e was. Even as successful as many of the d20 offshoots have been, I still can't believe that WotC hasn't tried to look at 3e, address its problems, and create a new and better version of D&D; that would revolutionize things the same way the original 3e release did. [/QUOTE]

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