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<blockquote data-quote="RainOfSteel" data-source="post: 5654121" data-attributes="member: 24460"><p>First, this type of unauthorized copyright theft is the kiss of death in the SF&F publication industry in North America. There isn't a single real publisher who would take it on without the Tolkien estate's authorization. Vanity publishers might, or might not, shy from it; but I think they would get sued if they took it on.</p><p></p><p>I find myself doubting it would be authorized. The Tolkien estate would, at least, want to claim back-royalties for its full publication history, permanent rights to a share on development in all media, and other possible issues like script control or even forced re-writes of the published material (the sky is the limit).</p><p></p><p>------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>You beat me to the reference.</p><p></p><p>Dennis L. McKiernan wrote the trilogy as a backstory to a proposed sequel to the tLotR. The books were named The Dark Tide, The Shadows of Doom, The Darkest Day.</p><p></p><p>The Tolkien estate did not want to do this.</p><p></p><p>Dennis L. McKiernan's publisher liked the trilogy. The publisher encouraged him to change the names and setting to sufficiently avoid a copyright suit and they went ahead and published. (The wisdom of this decision may be debatable.)</p><p></p><p>Before I ever knew this, I picked up the first book. Although I despise claims of copying Tolkien, I couldn't stop thinking it as I read through the book. I made it to around page 40-50 and quit. The writing quality was poor; obviously as a result of the re-write.</p><p></p><p>I still wonder what it read like when it was first submitted.</p><p></p><p>Later on, the trilogy was published in omnibus as The Iron Tower.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You're right, fan fic can have substantial quality. Frequently, though, it does not. It has a hefty reputation for poor quality, somewhat deserved, in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RainOfSteel, post: 5654121, member: 24460"] First, this type of unauthorized copyright theft is the kiss of death in the SF&F publication industry in North America. There isn't a single real publisher who would take it on without the Tolkien estate's authorization. Vanity publishers might, or might not, shy from it; but I think they would get sued if they took it on. I find myself doubting it would be authorized. The Tolkien estate would, at least, want to claim back-royalties for its full publication history, permanent rights to a share on development in all media, and other possible issues like script control or even forced re-writes of the published material (the sky is the limit). ------------------------------------------ You beat me to the reference. Dennis L. McKiernan wrote the trilogy as a backstory to a proposed sequel to the tLotR. The books were named The Dark Tide, The Shadows of Doom, The Darkest Day. The Tolkien estate did not want to do this. Dennis L. McKiernan's publisher liked the trilogy. The publisher encouraged him to change the names and setting to sufficiently avoid a copyright suit and they went ahead and published. (The wisdom of this decision may be debatable.) Before I ever knew this, I picked up the first book. Although I despise claims of copying Tolkien, I couldn't stop thinking it as I read through the book. I made it to around page 40-50 and quit. The writing quality was poor; obviously as a result of the re-write. I still wonder what it read like when it was first submitted. Later on, the trilogy was published in omnibus as The Iron Tower. You're right, fan fic can have substantial quality. Frequently, though, it does not. It has a hefty reputation for poor quality, somewhat deserved, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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