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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CuRoi" data-source="post: 5438349" data-attributes="member: 98032">Sorry to hear that. Since the "us versus the DM" antagonism I mentioned was never addressed however, you need to be careful that it doesn't just transfer over to you. You'll have to provide a balanced but challenging game or people will just slip back into old habits. This problem is as old as the hobby. Too many followers and too few leaders (DMs). The lack of people willing and able to run a good game creates some very annoying scenarios at times.  Don't be afraid to tell people what you need at the table from them for you to provide a good game. For instance, if you don't like writing scenarios for 9 people, it's going to show. Either figure out how to enjoy it or put your foot down and thin things out a bit. Doing it through some sort of "survival of the fittest" (seeing who comes back after you annihilate them with something like Tomb of Horrors - don't know how the 4e version stacks up but my bet is they made it sorta Horror-lite for 4e) may or may not work. You may find the people that stick around are not the ones you want to game with. Same goes for any sort of "revenge" on the DM for his mistakes. It could pretty easily back fire, espcially if this group is so tight knit and unwilling to split up. At any rate, best of luck in the DM's seat and I hope things go well for you!</blockquote>