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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 3811446" data-attributes="member: 5889">This actually can be fixed in 4e if they adjust the DCs. One of the benefits of a skill system like this is its more consistent.For example, a designer can set a DC 15 challenge and say: "A 10th level character that doesn't have a minus in this stat will be able to take 10 and make this." This provides some consistency when creating challenges.Further, if skill bonuses are harder to get, then its easier to set a point at which your skill can do amazing things. For example, a spot DC 40 might let you see an invisible creature. That would require a minimum +20 in the skill, which is nigh impossible for anyone but your trained focused ranger types.Remember that as you take away extra bonuses to skills, a +1 to DC is NOT a linear scale, as there are fewer and fewer ways to obtain a +1 to the skill.So DC 40 might become the "epic DC" and since skills are more consistent, you can easily just say that at DC 40 the skill can do something truely special. This is something you cannot do in 3.x, where diplomacy and jump checks can easily get in the 80's where other checks can only consistenly get in the 50's.</blockquote>