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<blockquote data-quote="olshanski" data-source="post: 3815376" data-attributes="member: 7441">Aha!So, putting together Celebrim's and Patryn's ideas, I've got a new strategy.1. A person in total cover is hidden and doesn't need to make a hide roll.2.&nbsp; A person with a tower shield can use the shield for total cover.therefore: A person with a tower shield is hidden and doesn't need to make a hide roll.This is great!&nbsp; so my party of 2 fighters and 2 clerics, all wearing plate armor and tower shields, can sneak up on a camp of hobgoblin mercenaries.&nbsp; I can just imagine the guards: Guard1: &quot;Keep a close watch: we've kidnapped the heir to the throne and the humans are sure to attack!&nbsp; Have you seen anything unusual?&quot;Guard2: &quot;Nope. I've been watching the lands closely, all the way to the horizon. Nobody is approaching.&quot;Guard1: &quot;That's great.... but say, what are those 4 shields doing about 100 yards that way?&quot;Guard2: &quot;Those shields? they are nothing. They've been creeping closer and closer for the past hour, but there certainly isn't anything to be worried about. I would have seen something by now.&quot;Guard1: &quot;Very well. Carry on.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="olshanski, post: 3815376, member: 7441"] Aha! So, putting together Celebrim's and Patryn's ideas, I've got a new strategy. 1. A person in total cover is hidden and doesn't need to make a hide roll. 2. A person with a tower shield can use the shield for total cover. therefore: A person with a tower shield is hidden and doesn't need to make a hide roll. This is great! so my party of 2 fighters and 2 clerics, all wearing plate armor and tower shields, can sneak up on a camp of hobgoblin mercenaries. I can just imagine the guards: Guard1: "Keep a close watch: we've kidnapped the heir to the throne and the humans are sure to attack! Have you seen anything unusual?" Guard2: "Nope. I've been watching the lands closely, all the way to the horizon. Nobody is approaching." Guard1: "That's great.... but say, what are those 4 shields doing about 100 yards that way?" Guard2: "Those shields? they are nothing. They've been creeping closer and closer for the past hour, but there certainly isn't anything to be worried about. I would have seen something by now." Guard1: "Very well. Carry on." [/QUOTE]

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