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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8773717" data-attributes="member: 87792">Now that I come to think of it what's that wrong with the PDK compared to the other fighter subclasses? I mean it's pretty obviously not great - but assuming Rallying Cry can get people up from 0hp (being unconscious doesn't actually deafen you and Crawford's said this is RAI) it's not worse than the Champion or Arcane Archer. And honestly the Cavalier's a bit of a tangled mess as well.Meanwhile the Four Elements Monk is fighting it out for third worst PHB subclass with the Champion. (The worst two are the Berserker that will get you killed and the Beastmaster that turns your campaign into an escort mission).As for Four Elements the weird thing is that before Level 11 the only utility abilities on that list that isn't directly competing with your being a monk and just hitting things with your fists or weapons are Fangs of the fire Snake (1 ki for +10ft reach) and Shape The Flowing River (for large waterbending shenanigans).</blockquote>