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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9822803" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>You know, you could just... not speculate wildly about Europe as it if was Mars or Faerun.</p><p></p><p>I can tell you, you can absolutely fire someone in any country Larian has offices in*, for expressing fascist/racist views - they're not a protected characteristic (insanely, bigoted anti-trans views specifically and limitedly are, in the UK, but that's because we're TERF Island, and the establishment is rife with by extreme anti-trans psychos - but even here you could and probably would be jailed for the sexual assault described). In fact the opposite of what you're suggesting is true in of most of Western Europe. Expressing racist-type fascist views in a workplace, to other employees (as is described), kind of effectively <em>requires</em> you to fire that person, because otherwise you're opening yourself up to not only civil suits by other employees, but potentially significant financial penalties or other actions from governments at potentially local, state/sub-state-equivalent, and national levels for allowing/encouraging harassment.</p><p></p><p>And no, it doesn't require "a significant paper trail", I don't know what country you're from but the weird ideas you're pulling out of nowhere hear make your post <em>sound</em> very much like an American who has never visited Europe and has some very exaggerated ideas about it.</p><p></p><p>* = I don't know about Malaysia to be honest, and I'm less certain re: Poland effective requiring you to fire them but it'd definitely be an option you could easily take. But certainly Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Britain, it's an extremely bad idea to keep a fascist/open racist on staff, legally-speaking. I haven't been able to work out which office is being referred to here. Contrary to the thread the only named person - Felix Pedulla - is actually no longer a Larian employee over two weeks ago he joined CDPR (so before the sexual assault mentioned was revealed). Wonder if CDPR are going to keep him after this, given he's presumably still in a probationary period. He's based in Warsaw, so I'm guessing this was Warsaw, which would be where the weakest protections were - but that cuts both ways. There's just no possibility "It's hard to fire him for legal reasons" was a real concern. Absolute worst case you could put him on gardening leave. This isn't like firing a union guy in some heavily unionised industry with strict rules that have been in place for decades. It's like firing any other random office worker. So if this is all accurate, and it does sound like Swen-coded behaviour, then that's straightforwardly bad management, not only exposing employees to harassment and even assault, but exposing the company legally from multiple angles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9822803, member: 18"] You know, you could just... not speculate wildly about Europe as it if was Mars or Faerun. I can tell you, you can absolutely fire someone in any country Larian has offices in*, for expressing fascist/racist views - they're not a protected characteristic (insanely, bigoted anti-trans views specifically and limitedly are, in the UK, but that's because we're TERF Island, and the establishment is rife with by extreme anti-trans psychos - but even here you could and probably would be jailed for the sexual assault described). In fact the opposite of what you're suggesting is true in of most of Western Europe. Expressing racist-type fascist views in a workplace, to other employees (as is described), kind of effectively [I]requires[/I] you to fire that person, because otherwise you're opening yourself up to not only civil suits by other employees, but potentially significant financial penalties or other actions from governments at potentially local, state/sub-state-equivalent, and national levels for allowing/encouraging harassment. And no, it doesn't require "a significant paper trail", I don't know what country you're from but the weird ideas you're pulling out of nowhere hear make your post [I]sound[/I] very much like an American who has never visited Europe and has some very exaggerated ideas about it. * = I don't know about Malaysia to be honest, and I'm less certain re: Poland effective requiring you to fire them but it'd definitely be an option you could easily take. But certainly Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Britain, it's an extremely bad idea to keep a fascist/open racist on staff, legally-speaking. I haven't been able to work out which office is being referred to here. Contrary to the thread the only named person - Felix Pedulla - is actually no longer a Larian employee over two weeks ago he joined CDPR (so before the sexual assault mentioned was revealed). Wonder if CDPR are going to keep him after this, given he's presumably still in a probationary period. He's based in Warsaw, so I'm guessing this was Warsaw, which would be where the weakest protections were - but that cuts both ways. There's just no possibility "It's hard to fire him for legal reasons" was a real concern. Absolute worst case you could put him on gardening leave. This isn't like firing a union guy in some heavily unionised industry with strict rules that have been in place for decades. It's like firing any other random office worker. So if this is all accurate, and it does sound like Swen-coded behaviour, then that's straightforwardly bad management, not only exposing employees to harassment and even assault, but exposing the company legally from multiple angles. [/QUOTE]
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