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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9607703" data-attributes="member: 7026617"><p>Yeah, I was mostly being rhetorical. </p><p></p><p>The problem is that what happens with space opera and with superheroes is quite different.</p><p></p><p>People tend to disagree about what a space opera game should look like in what it<em> represents</em> (in other words the things it covers and the assumptions it makes) and with supers games about how it <em>plays</em> (how the mechanics focus and what sorts of things you have to pay attention to in play).</p><p></p><p>But I've got to say that the closest thing the hobby has ever had to a dominant SF game was Traveler, and it failed-out for too many people early on to even be that (consider how poor a job it is to play out a Star Trek or Star Wars style game; it can probably do a credible job for something like The Expanse but that's a relatively narrow (albeit comparatively popular) style/setting. It was a little more successful back in the day because a big part of the written SF of the time looked a bit more like it, but that hasn't really been true for decades now).</p><p></p><p>Of course you can argue that D&D doesn't look much like a lot of fantasy either (especially if you get away from the chicken-and-egg of fantasy that's influenced <em>by</em> D&D) but that just gets back to the issue of first-entry benefit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 9607703, member: 7026617"] Yeah, I was mostly being rhetorical. The problem is that what happens with space opera and with superheroes is quite different. People tend to disagree about what a space opera game should look like in what it[I] represents[/I] (in other words the things it covers and the assumptions it makes) and with supers games about how it [I]plays[/I] (how the mechanics focus and what sorts of things you have to pay attention to in play). But I've got to say that the closest thing the hobby has ever had to a dominant SF game was Traveler, and it failed-out for too many people early on to even be that (consider how poor a job it is to play out a Star Trek or Star Wars style game; it can probably do a credible job for something like The Expanse but that's a relatively narrow (albeit comparatively popular) style/setting. It was a little more successful back in the day because a big part of the written SF of the time looked a bit more like it, but that hasn't really been true for decades now). Of course you can argue that D&D doesn't look much like a lot of fantasy either (especially if you get away from the chicken-and-egg of fantasy that's influenced [I]by[/I] D&D) but that just gets back to the issue of first-entry benefit. [/QUOTE]
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