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<blockquote data-quote="Frater" data-source="post: 2766311" data-attributes="member: 30676">Did she geta Reflex save vs the trap? Even if she &quot;jumped on it&quot; as you said she should still get a save.Anyway - some very good posts and discussion. Sounds like you are perhaps learning the age old truth that as obvious as things might seem to you you can never be so sure that it is as obvious as you thinkI would take the player aside and give her an option - she can start anew if she so desires or you can reintroduce her into the story line but her character is changed by X, Y or Z due to her actions. But the talking with her is key - let her decide what she wants and then find a way to make it happen and bring her back in.And - do not understimate the benefit of having these discussions with your players present. Explain to them your surprise, learn how they would have handled it, get their feedbakc on how they saw things - this way everyone learns and most importantly you learn more about each other.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frater, post: 2766311, member: 30676"] Did she geta Reflex save vs the trap? Even if she "jumped on it" as you said she should still get a save. Anyway - some very good posts and discussion. Sounds like you are perhaps learning the age old truth that as obvious as things might seem to you you can never be so sure that it is as obvious as you think I would take the player aside and give her an option - she can start anew if she so desires or you can reintroduce her into the story line but her character is changed by X, Y or Z due to her actions. But the talking with her is key - let her decide what she wants and then find a way to make it happen and bring her back in. And - do not understimate the benefit of having these discussions with your players present. Explain to them your surprise, learn how they would have handled it, get their feedbakc on how they saw things - this way everyone learns and most importantly you learn more about each other. [/QUOTE]

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