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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 5600394" data-attributes="member: 7533">For most part, my gaming group and I really like 4E and are having fun playing it.  There's just thing that's been getting me (and the rest of my players to one degree or another) down lately...  Updates.And in advance, please, forgive my occasional hyperbole.  It's likely the frustration soaking through.The regular addition of new stuff doesn't bother us so much, but constant revisions and errata of what's already there.  It's wearing me out.First, following the updates and errata seems to be so much more of all or nothing proposition than it was in past editions...D&D 4E is so heavily invested in the online tools that, while it's possible, it's not easy to run a game or build characters without them.  Of course, the online tools are all automatically updated (and cannot be customized) such that if you don't use all the errata, the tools become troublesome to use.  There isn't even a way to look up what a rule was like before it had been updated.  The online tools only provide the most recent update.By the same respect, the few rulebooks we collectively own (why buy most of them, when we can simply pay a modest monthly fee to access all of them via the online Compendium?) quickly become hopelessly out of date.  My PHB and DMG are functionally useless for rules adjudication at the table.So, we either stick close to the online tools and use all of the errata and updates, or we pare back almost all the way back to just using the three original core books and use none of the errata and updates.Also, maybe it's just me because I don't slavishly follow the update announcements, but so many of the changes seem to be so very obscure and subtle that we don't notice them (even though they sometimes make a surprising impact on game play) until weeks after they're released.All in all, it feels as if the rules are changing on us from week to week, and we can't rely on anything working in the same way from one session to the next.We're talking over the possibility of switching over to another, more "stable", system when our current campaign concludes, but we don't really any suggestions toward that end.I'm just curious if anyone else is having similar botherations.</blockquote>

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