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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6716740" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Not in the least. </p><p></p><p>There are areas (racism and sexism being major examples) where a person can have unconscious biases, or in which folks can say things they don't realize will be taken negatively. That's not going on here - the folks who are hostile (and, it is clear that there are folks on both sides who are hostile) know they are hostile. Their expressions of that hostility are fairly obvious. </p><p></p><p>The experiment is based on the idea that, while people can be hostile, they can still remain civil, that EN Worlders can say they don't like a policy, or a group that enacts a policy, without being jerks. We don't imagine that we can eradicate hostility, or make it invisible. The question is whether we can keep it down at a level where constructive conversation can still be had.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not a new concept to us. We've banned people for it before.</p><p></p><p>The overall measure is whether or not a person ever flagrantly violates the rules, does their style collectively make them more harmful to discussion than helpful? Are they a net major negative? </p><p></p><p>If people don't report things you find problematic, then you depend on the moderators' collective judgement on the matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6716740, member: 177"] Not in the least. There are areas (racism and sexism being major examples) where a person can have unconscious biases, or in which folks can say things they don't realize will be taken negatively. That's not going on here - the folks who are hostile (and, it is clear that there are folks on both sides who are hostile) know they are hostile. Their expressions of that hostility are fairly obvious. The experiment is based on the idea that, while people can be hostile, they can still remain civil, that EN Worlders can say they don't like a policy, or a group that enacts a policy, without being jerks. We don't imagine that we can eradicate hostility, or make it invisible. The question is whether we can keep it down at a level where constructive conversation can still be had. This is not a new concept to us. We've banned people for it before. The overall measure is whether or not a person ever flagrantly violates the rules, does their style collectively make them more harmful to discussion than helpful? Are they a net major negative? If people don't report things you find problematic, then you depend on the moderators' collective judgement on the matter. [/QUOTE]
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